Front door drip tray leaking
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Whidbey Rick
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I'll send a note to Steve. I'v had the smoker for a couple of weeks now.
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Rick
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Rick
DivotMaker
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I haven't seen that before, Rick - guess there's a first for everything! Yep, note to Steve. Bet you could clean it with a degreaser and silicone the seams, but Steve may advise otherwise.
Rick,
Getting with Steve is sage advice. He needs feedback for quality control. Besides calling/emailing Steve, there are a couple of things you can do. If you have a gap in the weld, you should be able to spot it at night with a narrow beam flashlight (penlight)held close to and run the length of the weld. Any light leaks can be fixed with JB Weld (an epoxy with metal components). You might also want to try the flashlight along the floor of the smoker. If you should spot a weld issue, degrease well and follow JB Weld instructions. Also, when you foil the bottom, ensure that the hole through the foil is clean and the foil pressed flat to follow the contour of the floor and the excess is pressed up the walls.
Dave
Getting with Steve is sage advice. He needs feedback for quality control. Besides calling/emailing Steve, there are a couple of things you can do. If you have a gap in the weld, you should be able to spot it at night with a narrow beam flashlight (penlight)held close to and run the length of the weld. Any light leaks can be fixed with JB Weld (an epoxy with metal components). You might also want to try the flashlight along the floor of the smoker. If you should spot a weld issue, degrease well and follow JB Weld instructions. Also, when you foil the bottom, ensure that the hole through the foil is clean and the foil pressed flat to follow the contour of the floor and the excess is pressed up the walls.
Dave
Whidbey Rick
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Thanks Dave,
I just checked the front welds of the trough with a small pen light. I did not see any light leaks along the weld but I think they are leaking. I can see a couple of spots that look suspect. I think that the JB Weld is easy enough to try. I'll report out on what I find afterward.
Thanks everyone!
Rick
I just checked the front welds of the trough with a small pen light. I did not see any light leaks along the weld but I think they are leaking. I can see a couple of spots that look suspect. I think that the JB Weld is easy enough to try. I'll report out on what I find afterward.
Thanks everyone!
Rick
Whidbey Rick
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Hi Fast-Eddie!
I think the tray is leaking at the welds in front of both legs. The liquids flowing towards the back are likely caused by the lean of my deck
. I've seen some evidence of fluid runs on the front of both legs. Looking at the welds closely I can see some pits or gaps that may be the culprits. I'll try and take some pics that show it.
I need to get some JB Weld and try to fill the pits and see if that fixes things.
Thanks
Rick
I think the tray is leaking at the welds in front of both legs. The liquids flowing towards the back are likely caused by the lean of my deck
. I've seen some evidence of fluid runs on the front of both legs. Looking at the welds closely I can see some pits or gaps that may be the culprits. I'll try and take some pics that show it.I need to get some JB Weld and try to fill the pits and see if that fixes things.
Thanks
Rick
DivotMaker
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Whidbey Rick said:Hi Fast-Eddie!
I think the tray is leaking at the welds in front of both legs. The liquids flowing towards the back are likely caused by the lean of my deck
I need to get some JB Weld and try to fill the pits and see if that fixes things.
Thanks
Rick
I'm in the trucking business...if you can't fix it with JB Weld and duct tape, it probably can't be fixed! ;D
Whidbey Rick
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Update:
Cleaned the area of the leaks last night. The front tray is no longer suspect as the leak. I tested the tray with water and there were no leaks on the right or left.
However, I also tested the front corner of the box by using aluminum tape to block off water from the tray. I applied water to the inside of the corner and immediately noted a small stream of water running down the leg of the smoker. This was on the right side only as I did not try the test on the left side.
I'm sending this note with pics to Steve too as I'm not sure as to the best method to seal this area yet. I'm also concerned about any areas that may be affected by moisture and grease accumulating in places I can't get to.....
Thanks
Rick
Cleaned the area of the leaks last night. The front tray is no longer suspect as the leak. I tested the tray with water and there were no leaks on the right or left.
However, I also tested the front corner of the box by using aluminum tape to block off water from the tray. I applied water to the inside of the corner and immediately noted a small stream of water running down the leg of the smoker. This was on the right side only as I did not try the test on the left side.
I'm sending this note with pics to Steve too as I'm not sure as to the best method to seal this area yet. I'm also concerned about any areas that may be affected by moisture and grease accumulating in places I can't get to.....
Thanks
Rick
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Pork Belly
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The construction of yours looks different than my #3. On mine the small section of front panel above the front drip tray is extended above the interior base of the smoker making a well to contain drippings.
The pictures taken from the inside of the smoke show how this lip extends completely to the corners. It may be that your unit is too clean or the angle of your picture, but I do not see that extended lip that my smoker has.
The pictures taken from the inside of the smoke show how this lip extends completely to the corners. It may be that your unit is too clean or the angle of your picture, but I do not see that extended lip that my smoker has.
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DivotMaker
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Rick, I looked at your pictures close, and it looks like you do have the extended lip on the front (the angle of your pics just doesn't show it well). One question that hasn't been answered: Do you foil the bottom of the smoker? The side edges are higher than the center, so I'm not seeing how you could get enough liquid at the upper edges to leak, if you cover the bottom in foil. I use foil a little wider than the bottom, so it extends at least 1/2" above the bottom.
Whidbey Rick
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Hi Tony,
Yes I foil the bottom on every smoke. I think the fluids are from moisture running down the walls and from the door too. I agree that since the floor is pitched towards the center any fluid running down the walls should flow towards the middle. And since my leaks are only showing as running down the front of the two front legs, I'd guess the leaks are where the floor butts up against the front tray.
I'll try and do some more investigating tonight when I get home. I'm also waiting to hear from Steve too.
Thanks
Rick
Yes I foil the bottom on every smoke. I think the fluids are from moisture running down the walls and from the door too. I agree that since the floor is pitched towards the center any fluid running down the walls should flow towards the middle. And since my leaks are only showing as running down the front of the two front legs, I'd guess the leaks are where the floor butts up against the front tray.
I'll try and do some more investigating tonight when I get home. I'm also waiting to hear from Steve too.
Thanks
Rick
DivotMaker
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Ah, that makes sense, Rick. Guess I wasn't really thinking about the moisture running down the sides - I was focused on the drippings! JB Weld... 
Whidbey Rick
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Another update!
I did some more cleaning this evening and I also believe I've isolated the leak on the right side. I used a turkey baster with water and was able to reproduce the leak (only on the right side tonight).
Pic #1 I believe the leak is at the corner where the wall and front meet. I think the leak is actually on the wall side and not on the drip tray side. I used the turkey baster with water on the wall which immediately leaked down the front leg.
Pics #2 & 3 show plumbers putty on the affected area. The putty effectively stopped the leak.
The putty looks a bit tacky and I'm worried about what the fix will look like. Any thoughts from the group would be appreciated. I'm still thinking that JB Weld would be the most durable (as opposed to high temp silicon).
I also want to get some feedback from Steve about the JB Weld and anything else I might need to think about (insulation?)...
Thanks to you all for your ongoing support
Rick
I did some more cleaning this evening and I also believe I've isolated the leak on the right side. I used a turkey baster with water and was able to reproduce the leak (only on the right side tonight).
Pic #1 I believe the leak is at the corner where the wall and front meet. I think the leak is actually on the wall side and not on the drip tray side. I used the turkey baster with water on the wall which immediately leaked down the front leg.
Pics #2 & 3 show plumbers putty on the affected area. The putty effectively stopped the leak.
The putty looks a bit tacky and I'm worried about what the fix will look like. Any thoughts from the group would be appreciated. I'm still thinking that JB Weld would be the most durable (as opposed to high temp silicon).
I also want to get some feedback from Steve about the JB Weld and anything else I might need to think about (insulation?)...
Thanks to you all for your ongoing support
Rick
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Only the walls and top are insulated. If the moisture ran out fast you are likely ok. You could run it empty for a couple of hours to dry things out if you think it necessary. JB is pretty tough stuff. Can be drilled, filed, etc. and relatively heat resistant. A lite touch with a Dremel should feather it in nicely. Waiting for Steve'input/advice is smart.
DivotMaker
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Rick,
I saw that Steve emailed you. I know he recommended the silicone, as he is unfamiliar with JB. I, personally, would look to JB as a permanent solution. Good stuff, strong and forever. Just make sure you degrease the surface really well before applying. Once you do a soap and water scrub, I'd recommend brake cleaner as a good degreaser. Won't leave any residue, and will definitely get the grease off.
I saw that Steve emailed you. I know he recommended the silicone, as he is unfamiliar with JB. I, personally, would look to JB as a permanent solution. Good stuff, strong and forever. Just make sure you degrease the surface really well before applying. Once you do a soap and water scrub, I'd recommend brake cleaner as a good degreaser. Won't leave any residue, and will definitely get the grease off.
