Bob, probably the same thing. I can't recall what these were labeled as to be honest with you, lol. I got these from Restaurant Depot. Certified Angus blah blah.....the ones I bought before were Creekstone Farms and they were called chuck plate ribs. Basically untrimmed from the chuck. Very meaty as you know and good eats to anyone that loves a good beef rib. Beef back ribs are good too, just no where near the amount of meat on them!