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Recipes => Beef => Topic started by: smythe on April 10, 2018, 12:19:50 PM

Title: Brisket question for you experts....
Post by: smythe on April 10, 2018, 12:19:50 PM
When I smoke a brisket, it is always done (to finish temp) quicker than recipes or other advice say it will be.  I see references to 8 to 10 to 12 hour smoke times for brisket.  Im always at temp in half that time or less (using a digital temp probe that is reliable).  Havent poisoned anyone yet, briskets are always good, but explain to me why I should leave it longer, and generally what makes the difference between performance and expectations Im seeing? 
Title: Re: Brisket question for you experts....
Post by: old sarge on April 10, 2018, 04:42:15 PM
At what temp are you smoking at and is that temp accurate?  To what internal temp are targeting?  What weight brisket and grade are you using?  More information will be helpful. Are you still using a model 1? 
Title: Re: Brisket question for you experts....
Post by: SconnieQ on April 10, 2018, 09:45:31 PM
Same questions. How many pounds? And is it a flat or point? At what temperature are you smoking? 8-12 hours smoking time is for a whole packer brisket, which range from 10-16+ pounds. If you are buying a flat from a grocery store, these are usually under 5 pounds and have been over-trimmed of pretty much all of their fat. They cook fast, but can be dry.
Title: Re: Brisket question for you experts....
Post by: smythe on April 11, 2018, 09:15:50 AM
Ive done both costco packers and grocery store trimmed.  Dont have a specific smoke to analyze this time, my question is more generic, but I understand now that a whole takes longest.  But even with a whole, I have never seen a "stall".  Temp seems to routinely rise gradually to done.  Any thoughts on why this might be happening?  Sorry for the lack of detail, but still appreciate your comments.
Title: Re: Brisket question for you experts....
Post by: SuperDave on April 11, 2018, 06:49:58 PM
Ive done both costco packers and grocery store trimmed.  Dont have a specific smoke to analyze this time, my question is more generic, but I understand now that a whole takes longest.  But even with a whole, I have never seen a "stall".  Temp seems to routinely rise gradually to done.  Any thoughts on why this might be happening?  Sorry for the lack of detail, but still appreciate your comments.
My speculation would be that you are using a Prime brisket or smoking on the hot side. 
Title: Re: Brisket question for you experts....
Post by: Pork Belly on April 12, 2018, 08:50:39 AM
If you season then smoke ten briskets of similar size, at the same time and temp not all ten react the same. Six will be perfect, 2 will be slightly under done and 2 will be just about over done.

You may bot notice this because your smoking one at a time and get 5 or 6 perfect ones in a row. I smoke piles of meat and the variation is obvious. They all cook up differently, the trick is to stay consistent in your method. If you are constantly changing your technique you have no way of knowing what is affecting the final product.

Personally I sleep through any stall that may happen. I put them on at 12 noon, 216 degrees and take them out at 0600. Sixteen hours of cooking, the first 8 with smoke.
Title: Re: Brisket question for you experts....
Post by: SuperDave on April 12, 2018, 09:52:52 AM
If you season then smoke ten briskets of similar size, at the same time and temp not all ten react the same. Six will be perfect, 2 will be slightly under done and 2 will be just about over done.

You may bot notice this because your smoking one at a time and get 5 or 6 perfect ones in a row. I smoke piles of meat and the variation is obvious. They all cook up differently, the trick is to stay consistent in your method. If you are constantly changing your technique you have no way of knowing what is affecting the final product.

Personally I sleep through any stall that may happen. I put them on at 12 noon, 216 degrees and take them out at 0600. Sixteen hours of cooking, the first 8 with smoke.
18 hours?
Lazy Q or not, at some point you have to be vigilant and actually check the meat for proper doneness. 
Title: Re: Brisket question for you experts....
Post by: Pork Belly on April 12, 2018, 03:34:18 PM
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Lazy Q or not, at some point you have to be vigilant and actually check the meat for proper doneness.

Experience tells me otherwise, They will either be done, perfectly done or "would have been perfect and hour ago" I don't make bad brisket. I make freaking awesome brisket. There are a few members here that have eaten it.
Title: Re: Brisket question for you experts....
Post by: SuperDave on April 12, 2018, 04:53:04 PM
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Lazy Q or not, at some point you have to be vigilant and actually check the meat for proper doneness.

Experience tells me otherwise, They will either be done, perfectly done or "would have been perfect and hour ago" I don't make bad brisket. I make freaking awesome brisket. There are a few members here that have eaten it.
Why would you be okay with, "it would have been perfect an hour ago"?
Title: Re: Brisket question for you experts....
Post by: Pork Belly on April 12, 2018, 10:05:15 PM
Because you cant make all 250 pounds finish perfect at the same exact time.