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Title: Pick up smoker?
Post by: roblox84 on February 22, 2014, 11:11:18 PM
I just found out that Smokin It is located about 15 min. from me and was wondering if it's possible to pick up the smoker to save on the shipping costs? I searched the website but found no mention of this. Thanks.
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: NDKoze on February 22, 2014, 11:16:10 PM
Yes. Many have done so. You are so lucky!
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: Walt on February 22, 2014, 11:16:40 PM
Yep!  Those that can do.  Congrats on the luck.
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: roblox84 on February 22, 2014, 11:29:58 PM
Yeah that is lucky, everything on the internet to me seems like it's located in California or no where near Ohio. I'm having a hard time deciding between the Model #1 and #2, have you guy's been happy with your Model #1's or do you wish you got the next biggest model? I only bbq a slab of ribs or maybe a 4lb brisket for me and my wife so it's a little hard to justify the $100 price difference. But then I start thinking what about that summer BBQ I want to throw once and will I have room for food if I buy the #1? What should I do :)? Also, why does this smoker never need refilling of wood but the Masterbuilt ones i've looked at need wood added every hour?
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: rickne on February 22, 2014, 11:47:02 PM
If you are picking it up, get the #2 without question.
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: NDKoze on February 23, 2014, 12:07:48 AM
I agree with Rick. For $100 and no shipping, getting at least the #2 would be my recommendation. But I might be a bit biased as I have a #3.

As stated here many times, you can always smoke less in a bigger smoker, but you can't smoke more in a smaller smoker.

Either way you decide, I think you'll be very happy with a Smokin-It.
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: benjammn on February 23, 2014, 12:14:20 AM
Wow how nice it would be to live that close. I have the #2 and find that it does just fine for small get togethers but at times I really wish I had the #3. For no shipping costs, definitely get the #2.
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: Walt on February 23, 2014, 12:52:55 AM
I have a family of 3 & own a SI2.  My cooks are usually for 3 to 15 people & I could easily serve more people if necessary.  The 2 will give you a lot of flexibility.
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: roblox84 on February 23, 2014, 01:13:13 AM
Ok model #2 it is. I just hope there is only one Fairlawn, Ohio and not another Fairlawn on the other side of Ohio, lol. I'm very excited about this smoker, every other one I looked at needed hourly tending refilling wood but I am very surprised how this unit needs so little wood and what minimal tending it requires.
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: NDKoze on February 23, 2014, 01:19:22 AM
The no tending is awesome! My first smoke was a Boston Butt that I put in at midnight and then I went to bed and slept like a baby. ;) The next day I had some of the best pulled pork I have ever had.

You will love the #2.
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: roblox84 on February 23, 2014, 01:43:46 AM
The no tending is awesome! My first smoke was a Boston Butt that I put in at midnight and then I went to bed and slept like a baby. ;) The next day I had some of the best pulled pork I have ever had.

You will love the #2.

Nice, that's awesome! I was reading other posts where people said they were waking up every two to three hours to refill the wood or check the smoker and I was like oh no, no way I can do that.
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: Three Sons BBQ on February 23, 2014, 07:21:53 AM
YES!

Steve will meet you just off the interstate in the parking lot of a big box store to make it real convenient for you.

Wham done!
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: DiggingDogFarm on February 23, 2014, 08:24:20 AM
Yep, definitely get at least a No. 2
I just bought a No. 1 and I already wish I'd went with the No.2  :-\
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: Three Sons BBQ on February 23, 2014, 09:31:20 AM
And if staring at a #2 go for the #3. 

It's a once in a lifetime purchase so splurge... Plus if you're picking it up its "all good."
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: DivotMaker on February 23, 2014, 10:33:47 AM
I own a #1, and have been testing a #2.  No-brainer - great decision to get the #2!  Fairlawn is in the Akron area.  Email Steve at smokin.it.info@gmail.com to arrange pickup.  He'll take great care of you!
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: roblox84 on February 23, 2014, 12:28:01 PM
I placed my order for the #2 so I'll probably pick it up tomorrow and start smoking during my days off this week.

I was wondering though do most people stay with the wood chunks for this smoker? And as long as the amount/weight of the chunks is the same it doesn't matter the shape of them, is this correct? Or do the cylindrical ones burn more efficiently in this smoker?
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: Walt on February 23, 2014, 12:49:49 PM
I have had great outcomes with chunks, SI dowels & chips.  I also have used pecan slivers from firewood as well as adding a brickette of charcoal.  Most frequently I use dowels or chunks for standard smokes.  Chips & slivers or even pellets for low temp smokes less than 200 deg.  Follow a well documented cook from this forum for your 1st couple smokes & leave any previous smoking knowledge to make adjustments AFTER this 1st smoke or 2.  Enjoy!
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: roblox84 on February 25, 2014, 02:52:12 AM
I received my smoker today and it looks very nice. I plan on smoking ribs on Wednesday and pulled pork Thursday, problem is I don't know what is the best cut I should get for pulled pork, pork butt or pork shoulder? I'm going to go to my local butcher, is there anything I should tell him how to cut a specific piece?
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: NDKoze on February 25, 2014, 03:08:01 AM
There are two main types of pork shoulder, the Boston Butt (upper) and the Picnic (lower). The Boston Butt is the preferred of the two. You're going to want to ask for a Boston Butt and your butcher will know what you want.

I just warmed some up tonight that I had pulled out of my freezer. Was so good, I just ate it plain.

Check out this pic that shows the locations of the two shoulder pieces:

http://0.tqn.com/d/culinaryarts/1/0/d/H/-/-/cutsofpork.jpg (http://0.tqn.com/d/culinaryarts/1/0/d/H/-/-/cutsofpork.jpg)

Its not the best picture. But it gives you an idea of where the roasts are located.
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: roblox84 on February 25, 2014, 03:49:37 AM
There are two main types of pork shoulder, the Boston Butt (upper) and the Picnic (lower). The Boston Butt is the preferred of the two. You're going to want to ask for a Boston Butt and your butcher will know what you want.

I just warmed some up tonight that I had pulled out of my freezer. Was so good, I just ate it plain.

Check out this pic that shows the locations of the two shoulder pieces:

http://0.tqn.com/d/culinaryarts/1/0/d/H/-/-/cutsofpork.jpg (http://0.tqn.com/d/culinaryarts/1/0/d/H/-/-/cutsofpork.jpg)

Its not the best picture. But it gives you an idea of where the roasts are located.

What weight Boston butt did you get and how long did you smoke it for?
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: rickne on February 25, 2014, 08:46:19 AM
Definitely a Boston Butt.  Preferably with the bone in. 

They usually ranged from 6-8 lbs.  I try to stay on the smaller side of that range if I can but you don't always have the choice.

Cooking times are all over the place.  Sometimes the meat has a mind of it's own.  Count on 1-2 hrs per pound.  Use a meat probe and cook to your desired internal temp.  Mine is 200 degrees INTERNAL Temp.  After it's done, give it long rest.  I let it rest a minimum of 2 hours and have held them as long as 8 hours.  Pull the meat and enjoy.
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: NDKoze on February 25, 2014, 08:54:24 AM
Mine was just shy of 8lbs and I smoked it at 225 for approximately 18 hours. But the ambient temps were around zero degrees when I smoked mine, so not sure if that affected things. You want to figure 1-2 hours per pound.

Like Rick said, every piece of meat is unique. So you need a good thermometer like a Maverick to monitor the internal temp. You want to get it somewhere between 198-203 if you want to pull it and 170-175 if you want to slice it.

After you pull it, double-wrap it in foil, and then place it in a cooler with some towels on top of it for a minimum of 30 minutes, but 1-2 hours would be even better. This allows the juices on the surface to ease back into the meat. Don't worry it will be plenty hot inside even after a two-hour rest.

Keep a look out for the stall that will occur around 165-180 or so. Each time is different. It can stall at a temp for up to three hours. But if you have time, just let it ride and it will work itself out and start going up again.

Check out the Pork section, there are lots of example of people's individual smokes and their experience.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

BTW, I brined mine and it turned out awesome. There are recipes in the Brine section for this.
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: DivotMaker on February 25, 2014, 09:01:18 AM
Can't add much to the great advice you've received on the butt, so I'll just add my endorsement of the Boston butt cut of pork shoulder.  I prefer bone-in, and usually average 8-10 pounds (what I can get in NW AR).  The cut is perfect for pulled pork, and is much better than the picnic cut.  Brining will produce some fantastic pulled pork!
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: roblox84 on February 25, 2014, 01:32:26 PM
Thanks for the help guys, I will start a new thread on my first smoke Thursday or Friday.
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: es1025 on February 25, 2014, 08:12:42 PM
Go for the #2 at a minimum.  If you have the space and the $$$ spring for the #3.  Use your tax refund...
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: DivotMaker on February 25, 2014, 09:00:51 PM
Hey Rob, here's something I posted awhile back about how the Boston butt got its name.  Kind of useless information, but I thought I'd share!  Who knows?  You might be on Jeopardy! some day! ;)

"There are actually two cuts that come from the front shoulder of a pig; the picnic shoulder, and the Boston butt pork shoulder.  The Boston butt has absolutely nothing to do with the "butt" as we know it - it's actually the opposite end of Porky!  The Boston butt is the top cut of the shoulder, whereas the picnic cut is the lower part of the leg. 

The Boston butt got it's name in Colonial times when butchers would pack the "less desirable" cuts from the pig in barrels referred to as "butts."  They would then sell them cheap to travelers or ships.  "Less desirable" meaning anything other than the ham from the back legs, or loin from "high on the hog" (another obscure saying from days of old).  Funny thing is, the name stuck everywhere except Boston!

In bbq, I find the Boston butt to be more desirable meat than the picnic, simply for taste.  But, there you have it - how the "Boston butt" became the Boston butt"
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: roblox84 on February 25, 2014, 10:53:35 PM
Go for the #2 at a minimum.  If you have the space and the $$$ spring for the #3.  Use your tax refund...

I actually already picked up my #2 smoker and it is pretty darn big. I think there is way more space then i'll ever need even for a summer barbeque party.
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: roblox84 on February 25, 2014, 10:55:19 PM
Hey Rob, here's something I posted awhile back about how the Boston butt got its name.  Kind of useless information, but I thought I'd share!  Who knows?  You might be on Jeopardy! some day! ;)

"There are actually two cuts that come from the front shoulder of a pig; the picnic shoulder, and the Boston butt pork shoulder.  The Boston butt has absolutely nothing to do with the "butt" as we know it - it's actually the opposite end of Porky!  The Boston butt is the top cut of the shoulder, whereas the picnic cut is the lower part of the leg. 

The Boston butt got it's name in Colonial times when butchers would pack the "less desirable" cuts from the pig in barrels referred to as "butts."  They would then sell them cheap to travelers or ships.  "Less desirable" meaning anything other than the ham from the back legs, or loin from "high on the hog" (another obscure saying from days of old).  Funny thing is, the name stuck everywhere except Boston!

In bbq, I find the Boston butt to be more desirable meat than the picnic, simply for taste.  But, there you have it - how the "Boston butt" became the Boston butt"

That's interesting, I wonder why the name didn't stick in Boston?
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: DivotMaker on February 26, 2014, 08:12:03 AM
Not sure why, but I'll try to find out! ;)
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: Walt on February 26, 2014, 12:03:36 PM
Tony, that explains the term "butt" but why "boston"?
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: Three Sons BBQ on February 26, 2014, 07:14:48 PM
I read this Boston before.... It was in colonial times and at the Boston port where in the barrel butts that porkj was shipped .... But my memory is for nothing at the age of 38.  :-)
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: DivotMaker on February 26, 2014, 07:34:27 PM
That's right, Steve!  It was the Boston area where this practice of putting the "lesser cuts" in the wood butts was first practiced.  Since that was the main sea port, most of these barrels were sold to ships.  The shoulder cut with the blade bone, known as the "Boston butt," was unique to the Boston area butchers.  The name became common, once the cut was shipped around the country.  Still trying to find out why the name didn't stick in Boston!  I bet it's more common now, though.

According to the National Pork Board, the "picnic shoulder" (sometimes called the picnic ham) is a little more vague.  Best guesses say it's called that because the taste more resembles ham, when smoked, than the shoulder blade (Boston butt) cut does.  It's believed that it was often substituted for the more expensive ham cut (from the hind leg) for informal meals, like outings and picnics. 

Maybe we have a member from Boston that can answer the question about what they call them there! ;)
Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: BHamel on February 26, 2014, 10:52:00 PM
Just a small bit of advice for meat since your in the Fairlawn area.  I'm guessing Steve met you right off of RT18.  Next to BestBuy is a GFS store.  No membership is required there and they have some great cuts of meat, and some of it is only one or two days old.  The Brisket and pork shoulders are very well priced.  Just my 2 cents.

Title: Re: Pick up smoker?
Post by: old sarge on February 26, 2014, 11:15:10 PM
Ohio has some of the best and tastiest pork and beef anywhere.  Grew up on that stuff. Still miss Bob Evans and White Castles.