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Smokin-It Smokers => Smokin-It Announcements! => Topic started by: DivotMaker on December 02, 2015, 08:28:14 PM
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Well gang, it's been nearly 2 years since I tested our first try at a digital smoker. That controller was a failure! But, we've worked hard, since then, to produce a digital smoker worthy of the Smokin-It standard!
We are proud to announce production of the Model 2D and Model 3D smokers, with an integrated Auber PID controller! I will be testing one very soon, and they will probably be available on the website this weekend.
This will be available as an option on the Model 2 and 3 smokers, and will soon be standard on the Model 4. This is the current GPH-series controller, so it has a permanent probe, and the pre-programmed recipe features.
This will be the "most accurate" digital smoker available, anywhere! We realized that harnessing the power of the Auber PID with the strength of the SI, in one package, was the best way to go! There were lots of design hurdles to overcome, but we did it!
I will be giving a full review, as soon as I get my hands on one (soon), and look forward to your input and comments!
The Future of smoking is HERE!
Special "Introductory" pricing:
Model 2D $599.99 (http://www.smokin-it.com/Smoker_p/smkmdl2d.htm)(Regular price $628.99) Available Now! (http://www.smokin-it.com/Smoker_p/smkmdl2d.htm)
Model 3D $699.99 (Regular price $734.99) Available Now!
(http://www.smokin-it.com/Smoker_p/smkmdl3d.htm)
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Looks like a very neat installation. Happy that Steve has chosen to go with the proven reliability of the Auber product-why reinvent the wheel.
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Exactly, Roger! When the first model was designed and tested, we didn't have much experience with the Auber yet. As time developed, we kept leaning that direction. I think this is going to be big, in the world of "commercial-grade" smokers. Accurate, and dependable!
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Tony, would older units be able to be retrofitted with the new controllers?
Also, it looks like you didn't have sway on the probe placement.
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Tony, would older units be able to be retrofitted with the new controllers?
Also, it looks like you didn't have sway on the probe placement.
We're working on a retrofit, Dave. It requires a new flat top and addition of a heat sink for the control unit, so I'm not sure when it will be available. It appears the initial batch has a probe placement lower than specified, so we'll be working on that, too. This is a "work in progress," but we've made a big stride with this release! I'm sure there will be a few mods as we progress. Uncharted waters here!
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Tony, would older units be able to be retrofitted with the new controllers?
Also, it looks like you didn't have sway on the probe placement.
I was wondering about the probe placement too since we have been telling everyone to put them 1" from the roof of the smoker.
Where this is, it looks like it could cause problems with meat placement.
I'm looking forward to the reviews.
I have long thought that finding a way to build the Auber PID into the SI would be the way to go. Way better than the Cook Shack option.
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I'll definitely be posting a thorough review, Dave! I suggested a 1 - 1.25" from the top placement of the probe, but it didn't get done, this batch. It looks like they put it just below the highest shelf, which should be OK, given the GPH (new style) probe is much shorter than the old one! We can probably get this adjusted on future runs, if it's a problem.
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Exciting news! I know what will be on my wish list for next year!
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Any idea on the aprox. price bump for this?
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Great news! I will buy the retrofit as soon as it available.
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Great news! I will buy the retrofit as soon as it available.
Same here!!
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I am glad that I have been holding off on the non-integrated Auber.
Tony, any word on whether this will be water proof/resistant?
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Great news! I will buy the retrofit as soon as it available.
Same here!!
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The pricing is a killer bargain. Congrats!
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Thanks Dave! It really is a great price, especially compared to the market competition!
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Tony, any word on whether this will be water proof/resistant?
Yes, it's a weatherproof as the original design. There's a gasket under the controller, and you can see the switch is a sealed-type.
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The retrofit kit will be somewhat difficult to install. Steve is working on pricing now, but has a few extra controllers and flat tops. The hardest part will be cutting a hole for the SSR heat sink (you can see the pic of the back, that it's located near the bottom left of the smoker). I'll post more on this as he gets closer to offering the kits.
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Okay, my last question. Will there continue to be models 2, 2d and 3, 3d or will the old model be phased out?
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I don't believe there are any plans to phase-out the originals, Dave; this just gives folks the choice of a base model or loaded options model! But, sales will dictate the future. If it shifts predominantly toward the D model, that may be the deciding factor. We'll all see what the future holds!
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Did the new pricing come out or will we need to wait for the web site?
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Did the new pricing come out or will we need to wait for the web site?
I updated the first post with the intro pricing, Rick. They should be on the website this weekend. We still need to do a little testing before they're shipped, though.
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This is all great news, and congrats to Steve as he continues to evolve the product line! I just have to find someone to buy my current #2 so that I can upgrade. To bad that leasing was not an option...LOL
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It is nice to see Steve not resting on his laurels and constantly looking at ways to improve the Smokin-It line.......but the more I think about it, I like turning a knob and letting my #3 do what it does so well.
It is a win-win deal no matter which version you choose 8)
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This is all great news, and congrats to Steve as he continues to evolve the product line! I just have to find someone to buy my current #2 so that I can upgrade. To bad that leasing was not an option...LOL
List your #2 in the Buy, Sell or Trade section, Steve! Leasing, huh?? ...hmmm...now there's an idea! ;)
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Wish you guys didn't live all over the country. I'd buy a used unit for sure for my son in-laws.
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If you ever get a chance to run through ND, I'd sell ya my #3 and order a new 3D model. :)
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Congrats,
I may just to sell my smoker and buy a new one!
Greg
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Saw this on facebook, man does that look great. Bravo on the design and going with a proven device in Auber. I would of definitely got one had they been available when I bought, but I am still very happy with my #3 with heatermeter that I say would take the most accurate claim down. I see no decimal places. :P Just joking with you guys, this definitely is the king if you aren't a gigantic nerd and just want to buy something off the shelf. Well done.
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Since it looks like our smoker but with the Auber permanently mounted, I think I like the plug in idea better.
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Since it looks like our smoker but with the Auber permanently mounted, I think I like the plug in idea better.
That's what makes it a horse race, Dave. Personally, I have enjoyed the plug-in version because I've had no other choice (until now). I find the clean design of the integrated weather-resistant controller kinda sexy! ;) Plus, there's no bypass to perform, permanent probe mount, no dealing with extra cords, no trying to keep the weather out of my not-so-weatherproof Auber unit, etc... "Off-the-shelf goodness".....for the same price as them separate! ;D
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I just like the fact that when the Auber takes a dump, I'm not out of business. And per your reply, it sounds like a slightly difficult replacement on the new unit. I like my Auber a lot but I just don't trust it a lot, if that makes sense.
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I just like the fact that when the Auber takes a dump, I'm not out of business. And per your reply, it sounds like a slightly difficult replacement on the new unit. I like my Auber a lot but I just don't trust it a lot, if that makes sense.
It makes sense, Dave, but you misunderstood the post you referenced. If the controller "takes a dump," as you put it, it's a few screws and you're back in business (it's the unit on top). The retrofit kit, for original smokers, is more difficult because the heat sink is separate from the controller, and has to be installed. I'll be doing a retro kit on my original "test model" digital #2 (from 2 years ago), and you'll see what I mean.
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I am looking forward to seeing how this retro-fit works, because I am strongly considering it depending on the price. Thanks for keeping us up-to-date on the new stuff coming out.
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One word.... WOW!
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I just like the fact that when the Auber takes a dump, I'm not out of business. And per your reply, it sounds like a slightly difficult replacement on the new unit. I like my Auber a lot but I just don't trust it a lot, if that makes sense.
It makes sense, Dave, but you misunderstood the post you referenced. If the controller "takes a dump," as you put it, it's a few screws and you're back in business (it's the unit on top).
Tony,
I had the same thought that Dave had also about the controller failing. So just for clarity, do you mean that you can bypass the controller or you would need to replace the controller it to have the smoker function?
Thanks Greg
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I think he means that you need to replace the controller but it is only a matter of a couple of screws to do so.
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Great news! I will buy the retrofit as soon as it available.
ditto!
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Congrats to Rick, from Grove City OH, for the first order of a Model 3D!!
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SO wish I had known this 2 weeks ago when I ordered my #3.
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Sorry about that, Mike! Just too many variables, in a new product release, to let the cat out of the bag too soon. Is the shipment going to arrive? Will it work? You know what I mean. When we did the first digital prototype, which didn't work, we let folks follow the process from the beginning; that was a disaster for sales! Then, the first try wasn't salvageable, so we had to start over. Just couldn't let that happen again. Unfortunately, there's no way to avoid some overlap folks. The up side is, you have the same setup, just in 2 boxes rather than one!
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SO wish I had known this 2 weeks ago when I ordered my #3.
Just use your No3 for a bit...get er all seasoned up good...enjoy the grub....do a little saving.....sell yours on CL...order your 3D.....life is good 8)
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Do the new D models come pre-tuned with the Auber control or is there still a need for an auto tune?
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Do the new D models come pre-tuned with the Auber control or is there still a need for an auto tune?
It comes pre-set, Rick. I've found mine is really close, so hopefully yours will be too. If it's not holding temp as tight as you'd like, you can do an autotune. But I'd just see how it does, out of the box. If you want to watch more accurate temps during seasoning, put a shelf with a heat sink in there (a few bricks, or a pan of sand or water). It will make it hold tighter...really hard to be accurate with an empty box!
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SO wish I had known this 2 weeks ago when I ordered my #3.
I bought mine last week, it would have been nice to of had that option, but I'm ok with it. I've already got four smokes in ;D.
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what will the lowest temp setting be ? I hope its below 140
LTS
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what will the lowest temp setting be ? I hope its below 140
LTS
With my Auber, I can set it at 0 for a specified amount of time in program 1, when I don't want the smoker to start right away. i.e. I'm going to bed at 10:00 p.m. and want the smoker to kick on at midnight.
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Tony,
I have a question about the new controller. With the portable model, there were concerns about over heating the Auber even with placement on top of the smoker. Now that it is encased, how has Steve dealt with heat gain issues?
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New integrated digital controller - great addition to the SI line! I'm glad I cruised by the forum today. I had an "external" Auber unit on my Christmas wish list for my wife/Santa to gift me. HOWEVER, I think I'll wait for the retrofit kit. Or at least see the price point and make the decision then. Any idea when such a kit might be available (days, weeks, months)? Anyway, congrats on the new models!
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Tony,
I have a question about the new controller. With the portable model, there were concerns about over heating the Auber even with placement on top of the smoker. Now that it is encased, how has Steve dealt with heat gain issues?
Good question, Dave. On the standalone units, the heat sink for the SSR (the chip that gets hot) is mounted on the bottom of the unit. That's why setting it on top of a warm smoker is probably not the best place. On the "D" models, the heat sink is on the lower left bottom of the smoker, and is not enclosed. I ran it this weekend for 15 hours (2 pork butts) with no problems.
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New integrated digital controller - great addition to the SI line! I'm glad I cruised by the forum today. I had an "external" Auber unit on my Christmas wish list for my wife/Santa to gift me. HOWEVER, I think I'll wait for the retrofit kit. Or at least see the price point and make the decision then. Any idea when such a kit might be available (days, weeks, months)? Anyway, congrats on the new models!
The kits should be available soon. This kit not only includes the controller, but also the remote heat sink, permanent probe, and a new flat top for your smoker (the one that's on it now has ribs). I think you will find the pricing very appealing, if it goes the way I think it will. Steve wants to be totally fair for the current owners.
Realize one thing, though, about the retro-kit - there will be more work involved than just drilling a hole for the permanent probe. You have to cut a square hole in the bottom for the SSR/heat sink, so this is NOT a "drop in/plug and play" kit. It will require a little tool work.
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I am very interested to see the pricing for the retrofit.
I'm not sure how much extra I'm going to be willing to pay to get the retrofit.
The other option will be selling the current one and upgrading or maybe giving it a new home at the lake place. ;)
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Should be out soon, Gregg. I'll post it when Steve sets it.
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I am very interested to see the pricing for the retrofit.
I'm not sure how much extra I'm going to be willing to pay to get the retrofit.
The other option will be selling the current one and upgrading or maybe giving it a new home at the lake place. ;)
I am thinking along the same lines, maybe sell the #2 and pick up the new one maybe #3 d.
Greg
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Gregg & Greg, what are you seeing the advantages of the new smoker worth the expense over your existing smoker with an Auber?
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You won't regret the size upgrade to the #3 Greg.
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Gregg & Greg, what are you seeing the advantages of the new smoker worth the expense over your existing smoker with an Auber?
The weatherproof Auber is a big deal for me.
Also, only having one cord to mess with.
One less thing to remember to pack when traveling with it.
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Even though the box is weatherproof, I can see putting something like a plastic shower cap over it, if you're using it in the rain without a cover. The probe plugs into a 1/4" stereo socket on the right end. The plug is the only part that isn't sealed.
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I wouldn't smoke in a pouring rain. It is just nice piece of mind in case a sprinkle/light rain comes during a long smoke. I would think in this situation the plug connection would be OK.
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I'm sure it would, Gregg. Just thought I'd throw that out there for anyone who might. ;)
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I'm sure it would, Gregg. Just thought I'd throw that out there for anyone who might. ;)
I'm glad you did, because I kind of forgot that the meat probe has to plug in there somewhere.
It would be nice to have a rubber plug of some kind that could be inserted if not using the meat probe. For example when smoking ribs and not needing a meat probe.
Since the stereo plug is a pretty standard plug type, this may be found for cheap on Amazon or the like.
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Yep. I'm going to try to get Steve to include one, just for that reason.
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On the new models , if power goes off for a min. Or so after setting up your smoke does it kill your setup or does it just reset and continue to smoke, why I'm asking is that where I live my power will blink off and on about 3 times a week and I would hate to set up a smoke for 5 hrs and leave for 3 hours to come back and the smoker has been off the whole time ,lol
Thanks
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coyote, it would come back on but restart the program from step 1 and/or the timer from "0". If you were in program 2 or 3 of your cook, it would reboot and start from program 1.
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On the new models , if power goes off for a min. Or so after setting up your smoke does it kill your setup or does it just reset and continue to smoke, why I'm asking is that where I live my power will blink off and on about 3 times a week and I would hate to set up a smoke for 5 hrs and leave for 3 hours to come back and the smoker has been off the whole time ,lol
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As long as the switch is "on," it will restart at the beginning of the set program. This is the case if you are also in one of the pre-set "recipe" settings. I tested this during the weekend smoke. I selected setting P1 (235 until IT 195, 140 hold for 4 hours). I switched the unit off and on, and it returned to that program. If you are on step 2 or 3, when the power resets, it should cycle through to where you were pretty quick, unless your first step was a time setting, in which case you'll have to manually change the program.
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So that would mess up a smoke, untill I came back and reset the PID right or am I missing something ?
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So that would mess up a smoke, untill I came back and reset the PID right or am I missing something ?
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Possibly, depending on your program. We're getting into something that is characteristic of any digital controller. Those of us used to the Auber PID know this, and this is nothing new. If you experience frequent power outages, stick with the analog controller if you want to be certain you will never "mess up a smoke."
This brings up another point, though...unattended smokes. While it's true we don't have to sit by our pits and constantly monitor them, common sense dictates that we be "within range" while using any electric cooking device. Not many folks put a roast in the oven and leave the house all day, so why would we when using a smoker? If the power goes off, go out and check your program. Nothing, repeat nothing, is ever going to be 100% foolproof or reliable in weird situations. I'll get off my soapbox now. ;)
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Thanks, and I don"t leave every smoke but when I have a 5- 10 hr one I may be gone 2-3 hr some times ? So I think I'll stay with my old #2, seems it will do.
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Oh sorry to start this , just wanted to know if I might need a PID.
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Thanks, and I don"t leave every smoke but when I have a 5- 10 hr one I may be gone 2-3 hr some times ? So I think I'll stay with my old #2, seems it will do.
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Oh sorry to start this , just wanted to know if I might need a PID.
No problem! I'm a big fan of the PID (may not have noticed ;) ), but like anything, there are limitations. Certainly nothing wrong with the original controller, at all. I just believe the rare circumstances of "all the ways" a PID might mess-up doesn't outweigh the benefit of programmable, accurate control. You can find a point of failure in virtually everything. But, I've been using the PID for over 2 years, and have never experienced a problem, so I'm pretty confident in the operation and reliability. Wasn't trying to be snarky with you, just trying to point out that some folks demand too much of their equipment, or sometimes have too much faith in it to operate unattended.
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Thanks, and I don"t leave every smoke but when I have a 5- 10 hr one I may be gone 2-3 hr some times ? So I think I'll stay with my old #2, seems it will do.
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Oh sorry to start this , just wanted to know if I might need a PID.
I use my HeaterMeter PID while I go to work all day. I monitor it periodically with my cell phone or any internet browser. You can read about it on this thread:
http://smokinitforums.com/index.php?topic=2765
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Just got my new 3D seasoned and decided to try 12 pounds of Owens honey bbq sticks. Found the controller was a breeze to learn after 5 minutes. set up 120 for 2hr, 140 for 2hr,160 for 2.5 hr and then 185 till meat hits 155 degrees. Made a homemade jerky dryer type fan for the top. will post pictures later with results. Any and all recommendations accepted from those with more experience. Thanks
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Congrats Rick!! Let me know if you have any problems. We should have a manual finalized very soon.
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Sounds like you could use an APC battery backup for more than just this.
On the new models , if power goes off for a min. Or so after setting up your smoke does it kill your setup or does it just reset and continue to smoke, why I'm asking is that where I live my power will blink off and on about 3 times a week and I would hate to set up a smoke for 5 hrs and leave for 3 hours to come back and the smoker has been off the whole time ,lol
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I was about to suggest a battery backup if this is a concern.
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Sounds like you could use an APC battery backup for more than just this.
PERFECT solution, for folks with power issues!! Can't believe I didn't think of that!
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Sounds like you could use an APC battery backup for more than just this.
PERFECT solution, for folks with power issues!! Can't believe I didn't think of that!
Maybe because power drain would require a huge battery pack for anything more than a sporadic couple minutes off scenario.
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What a great update! Still don't regret my analog #2 purchase somewhat recently. With any kind of technology there will always be the next best thing.
No way I'd be able to tackle the retrofit myself with a sad lack of tools.
Looking forward to the reviews!
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Jeff - you have a great smoker! The 2D/3D option is great, but it will NOT produce any finer food than you can in your stock #2. It fills a need for the BBQ geeks out there, who love the control, but it doesn't make it "better," by any means! (My words, not yours). Thanks for the compliments, though!
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Jeff - you have a great smoker! The 2D/3D option is great, but it will NOT produce any finer food than you can in your stock #2. It fills a need for the BBQ geeks out there, who love the control, but it doesn't make it "better," by any means! (My words, not yours). Thanks for the compliments, though!
Exactly! I'm not one of those guys that has to control the temp exactly. Not at all. So long as the food times out how I want it, I could care less how it happens (so long as I know how it happens lol).
Don't regret my decision at all. The way I see it. Keep it simple. ;)
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I typically am kind of a computer geek and am pretty analytical. But, for some reason I have never really felt the drive to get an Auber.
However, depending on the price and ease of install for the retrofits that are supposed to be coming I am going to be in a quandary about whether it really means enough to me to add this on. The cost/benefit analysis will ensue. :)
If I would have recently purchased a new smoker without it, I honestly would not be that bummed. Like Tony said, the Auber users are not going to be able to produce any better product.
The key benefit as I see it is to be able to schedule the program to make the smoke for set times and temperatures and move to resting mode at the end of a smoke to make it even more "Lazy Q".
I don't worry about smoke box temp anymore and only probe it if I am doing a single piece of meat and have an unused probe from my Maverick. The swings just don't bother me and don't affect my smokes.
The closer temps do have a benefit when smoking fish and jerky where you need to keep temps below certain temps. But that is the only time where the temp swings could be a problem.
The bottom line is that both the traditional models and the new "D" models are top of the line and really beat up on the competition.
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I find it both curious and interesting that owners of old models are considering retrofitting the integral Auber vs. the plug & play version solely on perceived moisture resistance. The cost differential for that upgrade just doesn't make sense to me.
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I find it both curious and interesting that owners of old models are considering retrofitting the integral Auber vs. the plug & play version solely on perceived moisture resistance. The cost differential for that upgrade just doesn't make sense to me.
I don't know if it has been said that anyone is "solely" considering the retrofit because of moisture resistance.
And it is not "perceived" at all. It is a fact that the new integrated module is waterproof and the add-on Auber is not (without some type of addon cover).
I think the cleanness of the install and not having to have an extra piece to worry about is a benefit too.
And as far as I know we don't know the cost yet for the retrofit. So, I am not sure how you can make that decision already.
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Cost, anyway you slice it, an Auber is going to be around $200. The new SS lid will easily be in the $100 neighborhood. But that is just my opinion. Add other misc. parts and one is more than half way to a new model.
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You may be right. I'm just taking a wait and see attitude and will figure out what I'm going to do when I know how much the retrofit will cost and what other things I could do with that money. :)
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Cost, anyway you slice it, an Auber is going to be around $200. The new SS lid will easily be in the $100 neighborhood. But that is just my opinion. Add other misc. parts and one is more than half way to a new model.
Steve hasn't released the price yet, but I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. ;)
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Cost, anyway you slice it, an Auber is going to be around $200. The new SS lid will easily be in the $100 neighborhood. But that is just my opinion. Add other misc. parts and one is more than half way to a new model.
Steve hasn't released the price yet, but I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. ;)
That ought to get the guys excited.
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So... Any time frame for the retrofit kits? I'm tempted to get an Auber... But don't want to do so if the retrofit kits will be out anytime soon. I notice that the new models of smokers are on the website, however the #4 is no longer on the website. Since it shipped with an Auber anyhow, is it just being held back until the 4D model is available? Just curious there, I'm not planning on buying a #4.
But...yeah... Looking to upgrade my #2... Need a test dummy for the retrofit kits?
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I am still on the fence on the idea of either buying the new version of the smoker with the PID or retrofitting mine.
I like the idea that I can get the smoker past 250 degrees with the PID (I would like to try some briskets in the 275 degrees range). the PID.
On the downside, it is another electronic part that in time will fail. Without the PID, cost to keep the smoker is pretty cheap.
Right now I am in move mode (looking to relocated in the next few months), so for me I will wait and see how everyone likes the new model!
Greg
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The increased temperature appeals to me also. The sales page on the 2D/3D says that it can go to 300°...that has me intrigued. 300 might be enough to get crisp sausage skin and chicken skin.
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On the downside, it is another electronic part that in time will fail. Without the PID, cost to keep the smoker is pretty cheap.
Since it's now an SI controller, it's covered under the 3 year warranty. :)
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The increased temperature appeals to me also. The sales page on the 2D/3D says that it can go to 300°...that has me intrigued. 300 might be enough to get crisp sausage skin and chicken skin.
Actually rated to 375 now.
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Yes. I want one. Sign me up.
I'm tempted to just order a new smoker to get my hands on this sooner.... But my wife would stab me in my sleep.
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Wouldn't want that, Aaron! :o
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The increased temperature appeals to me also. The sales page on the 2D/3D says that it can go to 300°...that has me intrigued. 300 might be enough to get crisp sausage skin and chicken skin.
Actually rated to 375 now.
OK now this may be the game changer for me.....
Greg
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Alright I am sold, if someone in the Florida area is looking for a #2 smoker with cover I will make you a good deal!
Greg
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... We should have a manual finalized very soon.
Just curious whether the manual is finalized? I am thinking seriously about getting a 3D, but am not digital literate, so would need a good manual to get started.
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... We should have a manual finalized very soon.
Just curious whether the manual is finalized? I am thinking seriously about getting a 3D, but am not digital literate, so would need a good manual to get started.
This forum is probably the best manual you could have, I say go for it!
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Since the new version of the smoker can now heat to 375 degrees (If I remember right!) has anyone done chicken?
Thanks Greg
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Since the new version of the smoker can now heat to 375 degrees (If I remember right!) has anyone done chicken?
Thanks Greg
I did 2 chickens in my #3 at 325, and it annihilated the skin. It shrank so bad they looked like the cavemen in those old movies, just covered by tattered cloth! I've gone back to no higher than 250 for all skinned poultry...we don't eat the skin anyways, and it comes out much better "dressed!"
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Since the new version of the smoker can now heat to 375 degrees (If I remember right!) has anyone done chicken?
Thanks Greg
Hey Tony,
I don't eat the skin either, but was wondering if this would make it crispy.
For me I am looking at the new model to be able to do briskets in the 275 degrees range, which it sounds like it should with no problem.
Thanks Greg
I did 2 chickens in my #3 at 325, and it annihilated the skin. It shrank so bad they looked like the cavemen in those old movies, just covered by tattered cloth! I've gone back to no higher than 250 for all skinned poultry...we don't eat the skin anyways, and it comes out much better "dressed!"
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Yeah Greg, the little patches of skin were fairly crispy, but they looked terrible! :o
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Yeah Greg, the little patches of skin were fairly crispy, but they looked terrible! :o
That's interesting....I wonder if you did 350 or 375, if the chicken would get done before the skin shrank so much? Not that I care that much. I'm happy with my standard controller and feeding the skin to the dog! Love chicken skin, but I have plenty of other chicken skin eating opportunities. This is about the meat.
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It was kind of just an experiment, Greg, since I don't much care about the skin either. Just had to see!
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Tony,
I think I read this somewhere on this thread, but wanted to confirm.
I can set the temp of the final cook (195 degrees) and then once it reaches temp, set the temp to drop no lower than 160 degrees to hold the meat until I can pull it from the smoker?
Thanks Greg
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Tony,
I think I read this somewhere on this thread, but wanted to confirm.
I can set the temp of the final cook (195 degrees) and then once it reaches temp, set the temp to drop no lower than 160 degrees to hold the meat until I can pull it from the smoker?
Thanks Greg
Greg,
This is true. However, the drop from your cooking temp to holding temp is a lot longer than one would think and depending on the meat, it will continue to cook and climb several degrees internally before hitting the holding temp. One has to do a little guessing with the final IT to account for the climb while the box temp is dropping.
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Thanks Dave,
That makes perfect sense.
Greg
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If i could find someone to take my #3, i would definitely go for the 3D.
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Ed how much would you want for the #3?
just curious
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Ed, you should post it in the For Sale or Trade section!
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I may have missed it but will the retro kit be available for the S1? Being a math geek I would like it.
Don
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It will be, Don. Soon, I hope! We just need to finish the instructions, since it isn't really a "plug and play" setup.
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Hello: smokinwannabee back and am real close to having saved enough to pull the trigger on a smoker. Since I last looked the Digital Smokers have been added. I am old school, not much of a tech guy and am wondering what the Auber means, and what PID means, + what benefits you are getting for the additional $200.00 ? Thanks for any light you can shed before purchasing.
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Hello: smokinwannabee back and am real close to having saved enough to pull the trigger on a smoker. Since I last looked the Digital Smokers have been added. I am old school, not much of a tech guy and am wondering what the Auber means, and what PID means, + what benefits you are getting for the additional $200.00 ? Thanks for any light you can shed before purchasing.
Primary benefit is more set it and forget it programming. The Auber automates a lot of the temperature setting and adjusting during the smoke period. With a "warming feature" program, it can be done long before you get home and it is ready to eat when you walk in the door.
It also all but eliminates temperature swings during the smoke but that doesn't justify the expense for my style of smoking like the programming benefits do.
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Thanks for the info, Super Dave.
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would this eliminate the need for a thermometer / meat probe?
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would this eliminate the need for a thermometer / meat probe?
Yes. The meat probe comes with the unit, and it plugs into the end of the controller. It's important that you use the integrated probe, if you are cooking to internal temperature, because it tells the controller the temp.
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Alrighty. Thanks, Divot Maker