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PJR

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Can not get my #3 over 205-207
« on: June 16, 2013, 02:26:25 PM »
It worked fine when I seasoned it
Now that I have 8 racks of ribs in there it will not go over 207
I had it plugged into a extension cord but I removed that and there is no difference

Any Ideas

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Re: Can not get my #3 over 205-207
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2013, 02:56:25 PM »
With 8 racks of ribs the temp inside the smoker will be lower until the ribs start to get to temperature.  Remember that the ribs are absorbing the heat as it smokes.  The more you have the longer it takes.  I have 5 racks going right now and set at 225 for an hour and it has topped out at 212 degrees so far.
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Re: Can not get my #3 over 205-207
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2013, 07:03:48 PM »
BHamel is spot on.  Eight racks is a large load, whether they're spares or baby backs ... if you put them in cold it will take a while for even a large heating element to get the chamber up to 225.

Did you space out your meat so the smoke (and hot air) has room to circulate easily?  Also, the rack you place the chamber thermometer on may influence the temp reading.  Perhaps doing a test load with only two racks (on two different shelves) and running a temp check every 15 minutes?
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Re: Can not get my #3 over 205-207
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2013, 08:20:19 PM »
Hey guys thanks for the replies
The ribs sat on the counter for a hour before putting in the smoker
The Maverick sensor was put on the middle of the top rack
There was about a inch in between each rack 
The ribs actually turned out really good and everyone loved them

Jason

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Re: Can not get my #3 over 205-207
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2013, 08:22:57 AM »
Yup, they don't call it lo and slo for nothing. ;) I usually start earlier and if my grub gets done a little too early, I just set the #3 for 140 degrees, it is a great holding temperature.

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Re: Can not get my #3 over 205-207
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2013, 06:13:08 PM »
Its still not going up to temp
Today I did three racks and it wont go past 220
I sent a E-Mail to Steve

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Re: Can not get my #3 over 205-207
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2013, 07:57:23 PM »
Are you placing the ribs above or below the temperature probe?  The only reason I ask is that the meat will interfere with the flow of heat to the probe if placed below. In the above position, cold air sinks, the opposite of heat rising and can have a similar effect.

If you look at a conventional oven be it gas or electric, the probe or probes are up at the top, never in the middle. Now look at the probe place on other makes of smokers. They are all pretty much in the same location, for a somewhat even cycling of the element within a certain temperature tolerance.

I am sure Steve will address your issue.  You might also want to run it up empty at  250 and see what you get after an hour or so.  But let me say one thing:  It can be maddening to expect dead on accuracy between an analog controller and a digital probe.  I would save the digital for cooking to temperature and as long as the food is good, relax and enjoy.  As smokeasaurus said, "they don't call it lo and slo for nothing."

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Re: Can not get my #3 over 205-207
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2013, 08:03:27 PM »
As usual, PJR, Smoke and Sarge speak the truth.  Running an empty smoke with temp checks at regular intervals will help confirm that you're not seeing the peak temps you're looking for.  Additionally, check to see that your drip pan is properly installed and that your smoke box is straight and true when loaded.  If after validating these things you still find issues I think Steve will help get your issue resolved.
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Re: Can not get my #3 over 205-207
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2013, 08:55:57 PM »
At the risk of being bounced off the site, here is a link I found where some fellow modified a smoker (different make) and installed a home brewed PID.  http://therockbottom.net/BBQ/SmokinTexMod/smokintexmod.html

I suspect that he voided his warranty completely.
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Re: Can not get my #3 over 205-207
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2013, 09:46:34 PM »
Strange....
All my smokes needed a lot of extra time. 
The last PP was the best I have made but as a 3.5 pounder it still took 12 hours.
the 3-2-1 method for ribs have not been successful for me. I have made lot better ribs previously on my other smoker(grill).  I will have to further experiment.
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Re: Can not get my #3 over 205-207
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2013, 10:27:52 PM »
I have done the 3-2-1 method and to be honest, that is too much foolin' around for me.  I tend to leave them naked for about 5 hours, sometimes more, sometimes less. Usually at 4 hours I start checking for shrinkage or pull back from the bone as a sign of doneness and tenderness. A toothpick slipped between the bone and the meat should meet little to no resistance.
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Re: Can not get my #3 over 205-207
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2013, 08:32:23 AM »
I don't foil no more. In my pellet grill, I do spritz every half hour. In my Smokin-It, I put the ribs in and I forget about em till later.....nice and easy and great results every time. You can put the extra work into the ribs if you prefer and you will be rewarded........but sometimes it is nice to just toss the ribs in and take em out -5- hours later and have a heck of a good meal.........that is what the Smokin-It is all about......just sayin....

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Re: Can not get my #3 over 205-207
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2013, 10:39:28 PM »
Great tip on the toothpick trick, Sarge!  I'll have to try that.
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Re: Can not get my #3 over 205-207
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2013, 11:22:19 PM »
My method has better use for the toothpick:
after a 3 hours, every hour check on the ribs,  cut off one bone....eat... use toothpick to get stuck pieces of meat between my teeth.
when no toothpick needed, ribs are done
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Re: Can not get my #3 over 205-207
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2013, 11:35:27 PM »
Spresso, I'd say make two racks, one to test and one to eat, but proper scientific method would demand you test both racks ... then you still wouldn't need a toothpick but you might need to lie down for a few hours.   ;D
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