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Smokin-It Smokers => Model 2 & 2D - The Middle Kid => Topic started by: EzGlider on July 27, 2018, 09:37:07 AM
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Ok, I have been lurking for some time but finally got my smoker so I am doing brisket for my first smoke. When I do the math 1.5 hrs/lb I need to start this thing at midnight to allow for 2 hrs in the cooler. I am an early riser so that means early to bed. The unit is the digital controller so any issue setting the controller at 80 F for 2 hrs (simulating room temperature) and then programming it to go to 250 F at midnight? If we are going to do Lazy Q well let's do it right...
Using a Costco whole prime brisket.
Wish me luck,
Jeff
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I think the smarter play is to start it when you go to sleep and let it rest longer on the back side. I have rested brisket, double wrapped in foil in a cooler & towels, for 7 hours with the temperature not dropping below 140. There are definate benefits to a rest after &, in my experience, the longer the better. But...your plan would work.
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I second starting it early. That will allow you extra cooking time if needed and a long rest has worked well for me in the past.
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I agree with Walt's advice here. The real unknown is the smoking time, but the rest for a brisket is really important. I too would start early and not sweat whether the brisket will finish on schedule. You are right to anticipate about 1.5 hours per pound, but we have seen different smoking times from others that have smoked briskets.
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Also, glad to have you out of the shadows and participating. Welcome to the family.
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Jeff - Welcome to the forum. I go with the others on this. Start it early/when you go to bed rather than letting it sit in a warm cooler. Pull it and wrap and into the cooler. Alternately you can smoke it and set the Conttol to a keep warm step of 140 degrees when it hits your target I T. Then pull wrap and store.
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Two thoughts...1st is food safety. I realize I might be a little paranoid on this but I always think 4 hours to get to 140 and believe that should be monitored. Delaying start by 2 hours would definitely cause me to lose sleep by checking on it. More experienced might chime in on this issue. Tracking history can help prove this as well.
2nd, when setting a program to go to 140 after your target internal temp is achieved, the time it takes to lower the pit temp should be factored in as it will be continued cooking time.
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Here’s a chart on my last Brisket smoke.
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And this is a cool down chart from a #2. Looks like it’s a lot faster than I remembered. Good info to know on both going up and going down.
Hope this helps!
Long rests only help
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I personally would not start my smoke at 80 degrees. I would adjust my bed time accordingly. To make a great brisket, pulled pork or anything for that matter .. sometimes you have to make a sacrifice. In the end the results are often worth it!
I’ve done my share of brisket over the years and the one thing I learned is that the brisket is done.. when it is done. The 1.5 hours per pound is a fair guide but they could be finished sooner or later to that estimate. I inject my brisket with beef stock and smoke at 225 until the IT reaches 190 and then I start to probe for tenderness. Once my probe goes in with no resistance .. it is done. I’ve had a brisket done two hours before the estimate at 192 internal temperature to several hours longer than the estimate at 203 internal temperature. I’ve kept a brisket wrapped and in a cooler for three hours and it was still hot when I sliced it up.
My primary rule when cooking … Cook till the meat is done and not worry about a scheduled meal time. If the food is served an hour or so later then planned .. so be it. I much prefer having someone complain about eating later than I said then serving the meat not cooked to perfection and hearing comments about it being too tough or something!
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So we stayed up playing cards so I made it till 11:15. I just used the B1 program to see how it functions (no problem). We had 6 for dinner and all raved about it after dinner so I guess it was a hit. Just did salt and pepper for season and 6oz of hickory. Cut the tops off 2 soda cans and filled with water next to the heating element and never opened the door. Put it on the 2nd highest rack to give it clearance with the roof. It took 15 1/2 hours to hit 195 and weighed 11.8 lbs. Sat in the cooler for 3 hrs before serving. I estimate I cut 1 - 1.5 lbs of fat off. Couple questions...
When you guys figure the time do you figure it on the trimmed or untrimmed weight?
If you were to do 2 would you double the time, and if you do 2 I would assume you would want similar weights?
Do you replace the foil after each smoke?
Thanks for the coaching on my 1st attempt.
Jeff
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Doug are those the graphs you get from the wifi controller?
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Replace foil
Approximately same time for 2 as 1. Probe smallest brisket 1st
I only trim hard fat. Very minimal, if any. So, my estimations are based on original weight. If you are a heavy trimmer, estimations should be based on the trimmed weight. After awhile you won't bother to estimate. Generally, I put the big chunks in before going to bed.
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Jeff, those graphs are from my fireboard. Have not yet done
A smoke while connected to WI-FI.soon though!
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For time estimate I use trimmed weight.
2 at approx same weight which I prefer but is not always the case,
Are done at approximately the same time. They
Are 2 separate hunks of goodness. I like to have a probe in each
Flat and each point, 4 probes for 2 Briskets.
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I use the trimmed weight for my estimate .. but it is only a rough estimate. I rely solely on the internal temperature and probing for tenderness to determine when it is done.
The time required to smoke multiple briskets is generally the same as smoking a single. If there is a big difference in size (weight) I place the larger one on a rack below the smaller one. If you only have one probe I would insert it into the smaller size but I have found there is generally little difference on them reaching the proper temperature. I did have one instance when one brisket was tender a couple hours before the second but generally they are done within a half hour of each other.
I change the foil in my smoker after each smoke. The bottom will still get a greasy film on it but you can just wipe that clean again. I do not wash the door or sides but will brush off any flaky deposits that may form.
You will learn something from each smoke you do. It helps to keep notes from each smoke to make any changes you might try to determine what works best for you. I have my best results smoking at 225 while a buddy of mine .. using a different smoker .. smokes at 260. After a while you might end up being the family restaurant. I often get requests to provide the meat for family gatherings either here at home or elsewhere. Try double smoking a ham sometime. It is another family favorite.