yeah I found a slick deal on a true 10x10 ezup this past fall. Unfortunately, when set up on my deck, it takes up the whole deck, causing me to have to move all the plants, grills, storage sheds, etc. It worked great but was super pain in the a$$ to set up and with my snooty neighborhood, had to be taken down within a day or two. Already owning a 10x10, I could not justify an 8x8 but those 8x8 are 10x10 at their base so I would have the same issue but with less coverage. Maybe I can mount a fishing pole holder on the SI#4 and stick a golf umbrella on it when smoking! possibilities!!