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Title: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: SuperDave on January 03, 2015, 10:01:47 AM
When I do my controller bypass and permanent temp probe mod, I'd like to change the exit location of the cords.  I've seen Divot's back panel effort on the temp probe, has anyone else changed exit location?  On a model 4, it makes no sense to run everything out the bottom and then have to go 4' back up to the top. 
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: DivotMaker on January 04, 2015, 04:37:26 PM
Dave, I'm not sure I've seen anyone else to the back panel hole with a grommet, but I like it.  The only thing I would do different is size the grommet a little better! :-[
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: SuperDave on January 05, 2015, 02:18:24 PM
FYI,
I went to the hardware store on break today and with a little spit, I was able to get a 7/16" bolt through a 1/4" ID rubber grommet.  But just to be safe, I also picked up a 5/16" ID grommet.  When I get home, I'll substitute a little dish washing soap for the spit and see what I can accomplish. 
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: BedouinBob on January 05, 2015, 03:20:19 PM
Dave, I was thinking about a similar thing even though I have a #2. It makes more sense to me from a keeping moisture out perspective to have it on the bottom. On my #2 the round trip to the PID if I had it on the top isn't as much but it does sort of duplicate the real estate. Interesting on the grommet. I am having a hard time finding the hardware for the addition of my new Auber (Thanks Santa!) especially for the launch toggle that some of the guys have put in. I can't find a dpdt switch rated at 15 A and 120 VAC.
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: SuperDave on January 05, 2015, 03:45:53 PM
One solution if someone was really concerned about exposed moisture.

http://www.wholesalemarine.com/sea-dog-stainless-steel-midget-vent-81957.html
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: DiggingDogFarm on January 05, 2015, 04:25:57 PM
Why not waterproof glands? They're specifically designed for challenges such as this.
They tighten up tight against the cord and are available in various sizes.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EZ9Y6G6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: Walt on January 05, 2015, 06:41:20 PM
Bob,  I did a parts list on each project (temp probe permanent install & bypass).  The rocket launcher & DPDT 15A switch can be found @ Electronics123.com.  I had ordered an extra missile launcher but mailed it to a friend in need, sorry.
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: SuperDave on January 05, 2015, 09:19:28 PM
I ended up using the 5/16" ID grommet as it was a lot colder outside tonight than the hardware store and that 1/4" ID grommet was tighter than a well diggers arse.

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Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: DivotMaker on January 05, 2015, 10:59:04 PM
Nice install, Dave!
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: BedouinBob on January 06, 2015, 01:00:55 PM
Dave, nice install. I am planning on mine this weekend. I saw a post (can't remember if it was you) to install on the bottom rather than the back for the Auber temp cord. I am putting a switch in too but I wonder if having the grommet on the back leaves it open get moisture in.
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: SuperDave on January 06, 2015, 03:31:51 PM
Bob,
I am not personally worried about moisture but as I alluded to in another thread, there are a number of ways to mitigate it if one was.  The fact remains that with a model 4, the cord couldn't come out of the bottom and still reach the top.  The Auber would be sitting on the ground.   :o
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: BedouinBob on January 06, 2015, 09:34:49 PM
I'm hoping to install the bypass switch this weekend along with the probe. I'll probably bring the wire out the back so I don't run out of cord. Walt, going with a blue cover to change up the style.  :) It's also my wife's favorite color which helps get her in the smoking game too..  8) I'll post when done.
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: NDKoze on January 07, 2015, 03:35:27 AM
The missile covers are cool. But I wonder if a waterproof cover like this would more functional as it would keep water/moisture out of the switch:
http://www.electronics123.com/components/switches-and-relays/Toggle-Switch-Cover-Waterproof.html (http://www.electronics123.com/components/switches-and-relays/Toggle-Switch-Cover-Waterproof.html)

Or even better, I wonder if the waterproof covered switch would fit under the missile cover?

Seems like the best of both worlds right?
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: BedouinBob on January 07, 2015, 09:22:03 AM
Good idea Gregg! But electronics 123 wants $7.95 for s&h!! I think I'll find it local.  :)
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: NDKoze on January 07, 2015, 10:25:35 AM
Yeah, that shipping is pretty crazy for a lightweight and small piece.

When I eventually do this, I'll try locally too or Amazon or the like where you can find free shipping.

Here are some options:

Waterproof On/Off Switch
http://www.amazon.com/Waterproof-ON-OFF-Terminal-Locking-Toggle/dp/B00NZ08F9U/ref=sr_1_47?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643872&sr=1-47&keywords=waterproof+electronics+on%2Foff+switch (http://www.amazon.com/Waterproof-ON-OFF-Terminal-Locking-Toggle/dp/B00NZ08F9U/ref=sr_1_47?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643872&sr=1-47&keywords=waterproof+electronics+on%2Foff+switch)

Waterproof On/Off/On Switch (with the three positions, I am not sure how and if this would fit under a missile launcher cover or not)
http://www.amazon.com/4pcs-Toggle-Switch-Waterproof-Cover/dp/B00R1LP95C/ref=sr_1_62?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643912&sr=1-62&keywords=waterproof+electronics+on%2Foff+switch (http://www.amazon.com/4pcs-Toggle-Switch-Waterproof-Cover/dp/B00R1LP95C/ref=sr_1_62?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643912&sr=1-62&keywords=waterproof+electronics+on%2Foff+switch)
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: DivotMaker on January 07, 2015, 09:01:22 PM
I am putting a switch in too but I wonder if having the grommet on the back leaves it open get moisture in.

I've had mine like this for about a year, with no adverse effects at all.  The insulation is tight, and seals the hole.  I suppose you could squirt a little silicone in there to seal it, if so inclined.
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: SuperDave on January 07, 2015, 09:12:18 PM
I am putting a switch in too but I wonder if having the grommet on the back leaves it open get moisture in.

I've had mine like this for about a year, with no adverse effects at all.  The insulation is tight, and seals the hole.  I suppose you could squirt a little silicone in there to seal it, if so inclined.
If Tony's shot gun sized hole hasn't presented a problem, I know I have nothing to worry about.  LOL!  Just kidding Tony!! ;-)

I contemplated a shot of silicone but I knew Murphy's law would kick in and I'd want 3" more of cord just after it set up so I'm leaving as is.
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: DivotMaker on January 07, 2015, 09:36:22 PM
Yeah Dave, I killed that squirrel with an elephant gun!  Not sure what I was thinking, but it's done, and working fine - just not as pretty as yours! :-[
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: SuperDave on January 07, 2015, 09:50:38 PM
Tony, if I remember reading right, I think you said your hole was 1/2" or 5/8"?  If you are a perfectionist, I was trying to think of a solution.  What I came up with was putting a small grommet  with the same outside diameter of your hole on the inside of a SS washer and gluing the washer to the inside face of the back panel.  It is probably a $1.50 in parts if it made you feel better.   ;)
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: DivotMaker on January 07, 2015, 09:58:07 PM
Ha, Dave!  So funny, because I came up with that same solution!  lol.  But then, I slapped myself and realized it's on the back of the smoker, works fine, and doesn't effect anything - so I left it!  I may eventually, but I'm all Zen with it now. 8)
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: BedouinBob on January 08, 2015, 12:57:30 PM
I may put a 3/4 inch hole in it just to go along with the crowd!!  ;D  8)
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: DivotMaker on January 08, 2015, 07:36:15 PM
That's the spirit, Bob!  lol! ;D
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: mozbbq on March 30, 2015, 08:01:26 PM
Bob,
I've got the DPDT switch coming (>Amazon).  I need instructions on wiring it in with the Auber 1800 on a "new" model 3.  Can  you help?
Title: Re: Power cord and temp probe?
Post by: paidin on March 30, 2015, 08:39:19 PM
Bob,
I've got the DPDT switch coming (>Amazon).  I need instructions on wiring it in with the Auber 1800 on a "new" model 3.  Can  you help?

I drew up a schematic using a SPDT switch instead of a DPDT switch.  I think this method is cleaner and easier.  Look here:

http://smokinitforums.com/index.php?topic=1287.105

I ended up just sticking a thermal fuse in there instead of a switch.  Mainly because one hole through stainless was enough for me :)

-paidin