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Title: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: DivotMaker on July 26, 2015, 07:28:31 PM
Picked up a 16.58 lb Angus "Choice" brisket, from Sam's, on Saturday morning.  This is the first brisket I've smoked that is that big!  I've done plenty of 11-12 lb briskies, but never a behemoth like this!

First thing that was apparent to me. was that I didn't have a container big enough for a brine!  So, after trimming, I injected with my brisket injection, and dusted the outside with Morton TenderQuick (for the "faux" smoke ring).  I vacuum packed the brisket, and kept in the fridge for the next 8 hours.

At 6pm, yesterday, the brisket was thoroughly rinsed, and then coated with Lea & Perrins Bold Steak Sauce & Jim Baldridge's Secret Seasoning rub.  I knew magic was soon to happen! ;) Into the smoker at 6:20pm, with 6.5 oz of hickory & cherry, and 2 mini-loaf water pans.  Set the Auber at 225 until 195 internal, and off to do better things!

When I looked this morning, at 6am, the briskie was sitting at 161.  Eventually, at 3:15 pm, the brisket reached 190.  Judging by feel, I believed it was done, so it was wrapped/rested in the cooler for 1:45. 

The brisket was one of the best I've done!  Not only did it look great, it was juicy and tender, with a great flavor!  I saved the point for later (burnt ends), and had the flat slices on Texas toast!  All in all, a success!  TenderQuick is a good substitute to make a smoke ring, if you're unable to brine.

Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: Ohio1956 on July 26, 2015, 07:32:52 PM
Looks really good. That is a lot of meat!
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: DivotMaker on July 26, 2015, 07:39:11 PM
Thanks Rod!  Took up the entire #3 shelf, from end to end!  That was a big hunk a meat!!  I wanted my "first time," with a whole brisket to be special, and I wasn't disappointed! :-*
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: prudentsmoker on July 26, 2015, 09:49:33 PM
Looks great. How full were the mini loaf pans?
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: SuperDave on July 26, 2015, 09:53:36 PM
You can tell that it was fall apart tender and if it was juicy to boot, that's a home run for sure Tony.  Nice job with your first hunk-o meat. 
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: SuperDave on July 26, 2015, 09:55:25 PM
Looks great. How full were the mini loaf pans?
+1, 21 hours in my smoker and water pans are bone dry. 
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: Libohunden on July 26, 2015, 10:06:20 PM
Looks excellent, Tony!!
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: Limey on July 26, 2015, 11:23:14 PM
Very courageous Tony, glad it worked out..
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: elkins20 on July 27, 2015, 12:51:26 AM
That is really good looking beef Tony. Where can I find the Morton TenderQuick? As that smoke ring looks to be !/4 inch or better. I have also heard that cherry smoke will make a smoke ring. As I had a faint one on my ribs. But, that could have been the cherry/chipotle rub I used. Anyway very good looking brisket. I wish you would talk to Brian to get the smell app. working on this forum...  ??? One other quick question, did you cook it fat side up or down? I have heard that fat side up will add juice to the brisket.
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: gregbooras on July 27, 2015, 07:59:06 AM
Tony,

Really nice looking brisket.

I also like the idea of the Morton Quick Tender, I know you said a dusting, any idea how much used.

Thanks Greg
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: mizzoufan on July 27, 2015, 08:54:30 AM
Morton's TQ can be found at most of our grocery stores, Bill.  Think I got mine at HyVee, but the other should have it as well.
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: swthorpe on July 27, 2015, 08:56:41 AM
Well done, as usual Tony!   The briskie looks amazing!
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: DivotMaker on July 27, 2015, 08:22:47 PM
Thanks, all!  I'll try to answer the questions!  First, in that big rascal of a smoker, I use 2 mini-loaf pans 3/4 full of water.  At the end of 21.5 hours, they still had liquid in them, although most was liquid oil from the rendered fat!

Tenderquick:  Any spice isle at your favorite place to shop - common.  How much?  I literally just "dusted" the meat, and rubbed it in.  I think the instructions said something like 1 Tbsp. for every pound of meat; I probably used 4-5 Tbsp. total (if that).  I just opened the bag and sprinkled, not sure of how it would work.  I rubbed it in and sealed the whole thing in a big FoodSaver bag (they make an expandable bag that will hold a monster piece of meat like this).  I rinsed the surface well, before coating with the steak sauce and rub.  I have to tell you, I was blown away with the results of the Tenderquick!  Didn't know what to expect, and was really pleased with the appearance.  This was 8 hours in the TQ.

Bill - fat-side down to protect the flat.  I don't trim the fat on the flat very much, and it shields the heat.  Fat cap, on the flat, was pretty much gone when it finished.  It's like "expendable insulation!"  And, cherry will make a darker bark, but will not produce a smoke ring; it doesn't penetrate deep enough.  The only way you'll produce that "faux" smoke ring is nitrites/nitrates.  Although it's only for appearance, and not taste, it's not necessary, but sure does look pretty! ;)

Overall, I consider this one a "win!"  I probably won't do many that size again, but it was fun!  And, I have a big point that will soon be some killer burnt ends! ;D
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: SuperDave on July 27, 2015, 09:09:14 PM
Tony, clod might now be in your future if you could find one.  I did a 17 lbs. clod on my first attempt. 
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: drains on July 27, 2015, 09:20:39 PM
Fantastic just fantastic Tony! The sams here never has briskets that good. And they want alot for them. Only select briskets never even choice and certainly not angus. Well done!
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: DivotMaker on July 27, 2015, 09:38:46 PM
Tony, clod might now be in your future if you could find one.  I did a 17 lbs. clod on my first attempt.

I'm now on a mission to find one, now that I have just the vehicle for it to take a spin in! ;)
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: DivotMaker on July 27, 2015, 09:40:51 PM
Fantastic just fantastic Tony! The sams here never has briskets that good. And they want alot for them. Only select briskets never even choice and certainly not angus. Well done!

Thanks Dale!  Quite a compliment, coming from a Texan!! :D   My Sam's used to frequently carry Prime briskets, but I haven't seen them for awhile.  The Choice Angus was pretty good.
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: elkins20 on July 27, 2015, 11:08:15 PM
Hey Dale, have you got a costco in your neck of the woods? My cousins say they have a good selection of meat.
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: SconnieQ on September 08, 2015, 01:00:14 AM
Hey Dale, have you got a costco in your neck of the woods? My cousins say they have a good selection of meat.
Costco here has whole packer briskets, USDA Prime, for $3.79/lb. Smoked a 14.5 lb Prime brisket this weekend. Cut in 2 pieces (point and flat) to fit on #1. Best brisket I've ever done.
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: SconnieQ on September 08, 2015, 01:18:48 AM
Tenderquick:  Any spice isle at your favorite place to shop - common.  How much?  I literally just "dusted" the meat, and rubbed it in.  I think the instructions said something like 1 Tbsp. for every pound of meat; I probably used 4-5 Tbsp. total (if that).  I just opened the bag and sprinkled, not sure of how it would work.  I rubbed it in and sealed the whole thing in a big FoodSaver bag (they make an expandable bag that will hold a monster piece of meat like this).  I rinsed the surface well, before coating with the steak sauce and rub.  I have to tell you, I was blown away with the results of the Tenderquick!  Didn't know what to expect, and was really pleased with the appearance.  This was 8 hours in the TQ.

I'm sold on the Tender Quick method! I used in on my 14.5 lb Prime brisket this weekend. Dusted and rubbed in the Tender Quick, wrapped tightly in plastic wrap (didn't bother to vacuum seal). I probably used 5-6 tablespoons of Tender Quick, but I don't think you have to be exact because you will be rinsing it. Refrigerated for 6.5 hours, then rinsed thoroughly. Patted dry, oiled surface. Added a low sodium rub, then smoked. I did not inject or brine. The most juicy, melt-in-your-mouth and delicious brisket I have ever made, or had anywhere for that matter. I love it when simplicity (no brine or injection) triumphs. (Maybe the fact that it was Prime helped). The faux smoke ring was absolutely gorgeous, but at a good 1/4 inch, maybe a bit too big. Next time I will go 3-4 hours with the Tender Quick. I think it will look more realistic if it is slightly smaller. I like the look of the Tender Quick smoke ring better than the one achieved by brining with Prague Powder #1. The Tender Quick makes a very distinctive ring near the surface, which looks more like a real one to me, but that's subjective I imagine.
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: drains on September 09, 2015, 01:25:46 AM
No Costco here only SAMs and local grocery stores. Kroger in next town north of here, 20 miles. I'll look for the tender quick next time I go shopping.
Title: Re: First Whole Brisket in the #3 Big Daddy!
Post by: DivotMaker on September 09, 2015, 10:01:05 PM
Tenderquick:  Any spice isle at your favorite place to shop - common.  How much?  I literally just "dusted" the meat, and rubbed it in.  I think the instructions said something like 1 Tbsp. for every pound of meat; I probably used 4-5 Tbsp. total (if that).  I just opened the bag and sprinkled, not sure of how it would work.  I rubbed it in and sealed the whole thing in a big FoodSaver bag (they make an expandable bag that will hold a monster piece of meat like this).  I rinsed the surface well, before coating with the steak sauce and rub.  I have to tell you, I was blown away with the results of the Tenderquick!  Didn't know what to expect, and was really pleased with the appearance.  This was 8 hours in the TQ.

I'm sold on the Tender Quick method! I used in on my 14.5 lb Prime brisket this weekend. Dusted and rubbed in the Tender Quick, wrapped tightly in plastic wrap (didn't bother to vacuum seal). I probably used 5-6 tablespoons of Tender Quick, but I don't think you have to be exact because you will be rinsing it. Refrigerated for 6.5 hours, then rinsed thoroughly. Patted dry, oiled surface. Added a low sodium rub, then smoked. I did not inject or brine. The most juicy, melt-in-your-mouth and delicious brisket I have ever made, or had anywhere for that matter. I love it when simplicity (no brine or injection) triumphs. (Maybe the fact that it was Prime helped). The faux smoke ring was absolutely gorgeous, but at a good 1/4 inch, maybe a bit too big. Next time I will go 3-4 hours with the Tender Quick. I think it will look more realistic if it is slightly smaller. I like the look of the Tender Quick smoke ring better than the one achieved by brining with Prague Powder #1. The Tender Quick makes a very distinctive ring near the surface, which looks more like a real one to me, but that's subjective I imagine.

I agree, Kari!  The TQ ring looks more "genuine."  I have had plenty of Q-shack brisket that had a 1/4" ring; it all depends on the meat and technique.  Even Brian (Pork Belly) mentioned that he doesn't get rings all the time, and he smokes like 25 a day.  They vary, and none of your dinner guests will know or care!

I bet the Prime did make a difference, as far as no brine or injection.  I'll have to give this a try, next time I find one!