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gmannel

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Bottom foil
« on: July 12, 2015, 03:51:41 PM »
From another topic it was mentioned that maybe a foil steam table lid might be easier than the ever so popular job of climbing in and foiling the bottom of the larger units. Indeed on Amazon the full size foil steam table lids from Web Restaurant Store are and almost perfect fit at 13.5 x 21.1 in. Meat would have to be right up against the wall to miss it. Ordered a 10 pack to try. About 0.34 ea for larger pack if they work. Will keep yall posted. 5 lbs jalapeno-soy soaked wings and a Bloomin' Bologna on now!
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Re: Bottom foil
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2015, 04:08:08 PM »
Let us know how it works, George!
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Re: Bottom foil
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2015, 05:51:08 PM »
I'm in if it works! I'm all for easier!
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Re: Bottom foil
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2015, 06:15:55 PM »
Since the bottom of the smoker has a cress, that will be the big challenge with the lids, I think.  There will be more standing liquid until it finds the hole.  Don't know what problem if any that would create.
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Re: Bottom foil
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2015, 11:31:56 AM »
I think the foil lid will be easy to crease as well, will know soon as they arrive today.
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Re: Bottom foil
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2015, 08:24:50 PM »
Kind of sounds like overkill to me... JMO
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Re: Bottom foil
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2015, 09:39:56 PM »
Quote from: elkins20 on July 22, 2015, 08:24:50 PM
Kind of sounds like overkill to me... JMO

I kind of agree, Bill, but we'll see how the reviews go.  I guess I haven't had a problem with just HD foil, but maybe I just didn't realize I had a problem! ;)
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Re: Bottom foil
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2015, 09:59:25 PM »
No one should criticize experimentation in a sport like ours.  Some of us take lazy Q to mean no clean up, like scrubbing the bottom of the smoker under the foil, which always collects grease. 
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Re: Bottom foil
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2015, 10:31:16 PM »
I know that feeling Dave, after the BB smoke my foil was sticking to the bottom of the smoker. I scrubbed it, now will clean after every smoke. I still think will go with the HD foil.
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Re: Bottom foil
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2015, 10:42:56 PM »
Quote from: SuperDave on July 22, 2015, 09:59:25 PM
No one should criticize experimentation in a sport like ours.  Some of us take lazy Q to mean no clean up, like scrubbing the bottom of the smoker under the foil, which always collects grease.

You're right, Dave; that's why I said we need to wait for the reviews of this new technique.  I, personally, believe you'll have the same results.  Why?  Because moisture and grease collects on the sides of the smoker, and runs down to the floor.  Unless you create a seal, between the foil/lids, with the sides of the smoker, you will always have moisture/grease get under the bottom liner.  If I have to clean the bottom anyways, I'm going with the easiest solution to catch the bulk of the drippings.  That may be foil, or it may be the aluminum pan lids...jury is still out!
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Re: Bottom foil
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2015, 11:51:52 PM »
Foil!


Those side/front/back 90 degree edges get messy even with foil.   

Don't over think it?:)
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Re: Bottom foil
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2015, 01:01:30 AM »
When I foil I put it all the way on the back floor, but have it up 3 or 4 inches on either side. And my floor still gets gunk all over it. Which is kind of strange as not very much in the drip pan on the underside? And yes I always make sure that both drain holes are open. And I always have problems with the foil sticking to the floor.
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Re: Bottom foil
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2015, 10:50:30 AM »
Just an interesting fact about my #4.  If I foil the floor and do a pork butt, there will be a layer of fat under the foil at the end of the smoke.  However, if I put an internal drip pan a couple of rack positions under the butt, no fat layer under the foil.  That makes me think that the theory about vertical sides and back are incorrect.   I'm thinking that once the fat/juices are on the foil floor that some capillary action sucks it around the edges or possibly the drain hole itself. 
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Re: Bottom foil
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2015, 11:29:45 AM »
Hey Dave, same thing happened to me when I did the butt in my #1 last Sat. Not only was the floor under the foil a mess. But in the water pan it was full and this smoke just used a 1/2 half pan of apple juice. Also there was about a 1/4 of an inch in the drip pan below the smoker floor. I think you might be onto something about putting a pan under the butt. I know when I did the chuck roast did not have this problem or with ribs.
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Re: Bottom foil
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2015, 07:44:20 PM »
Could a quality bakers sheet work?

They make them very close in the size needed. Slide in, slide out



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