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Auber PID Controllers => Auber PID Tips and Tricks => Topic started by: cookingdude555 on May 19, 2018, 02:34:17 PM
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Has anyone tried this?:
https://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_28&products_id=702
I am close to pulling the trigger for my #3, looking for opinions of those that have done it. Thanks.
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Please see this link.
https://www.smokinitforums.com/index.php?topic=6964.0
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Thanks Sarge.
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looking through that thread, it seems there are two new different products:
- A new line of smokers with wifi (yay!)
- A line of wifi pid upgrades for existing digital smokers
I have the analog control smoker #3. I would think this leaves me out of the equation for this upgrade. I am wondering if I will need to purchase the PID controller from auber I posted in this thread, and then take my analog controller out of the circuit so that it just runs full throttle when plugged in, which would have to always be manged by the auber after that point. Also, I would be able to raise my max temp of the smoker? Do I have these assumptions correct? I am open to suggestions.
I was going to purchase a flameboss for my BGEs and the auber for my #3, but I discovered aubers BGE controllers with wifi connectivity as well. This would keep both of my controllers managed in the same auber app. And looking at the screen shots from the other thread of the app for the new SI controller, it looks like its just the auberins app.
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The Auber stickys have a lot of good info from folks who have done an install of the stand alone Auber. This link should get you started although there are many more.
http://smokinitforums.com/index.php?topic=1287.0
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I have a Auber PID on my #3 and love it, it is not Wi-Fi (would be great) but it works awesome with the #3. My temp holds within a few degrees always and usually spot on. It may over run 5-8 degrees on start up then settle back down to the set temp. The new Big Red would be nice if I had a digital but for now I am very happy and I think you would be also.
In the back of my mind I wonder if the analog #3 could be converted, I am sure that it would void and and all warranties :)
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I have a Auber PID on my #3 and love it, it is not Wi-Fi (would be great) but it works awesome with the #3. My temp holds within a few degrees always and usually spot on. It may over run 5-8 degrees on start up then settle back down to the set temp. The new Big Red would be nice if I had a digital but for now I am very happy and I think you would be also.
In the back of my mind I wonder if the analog #3 could be converted, I am sure that it would void and and all warranties :)
Thanks for your reply and insight into the #3 with an auber. I think I’ve decided to go the bypass route with this new WiFi auber. I have thought about doing the toggle switch but I don’t know that I would ever want to go back to the analog route. I have plenty more cookers if I have to work on this one. How hot have you been able to cook with the auber in play? That is the biggest driver for me is breaking through the low temp barrier.
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I have a Auber PID on my #3 and love it, it is not Wi-Fi (would be great) but it works awesome with the #3. My temp holds within a few degrees always and usually spot on. It may over run 5-8 degrees on start up then settle back down to the set temp. The new Big Red would be nice if I had a digital but for now I am very happy and I think you would be also.
In the back of my mind I wonder if the analog #3 could be converted, I am sure that it would void and and all warranties :)
Thanks for your reply and insight into the #3 with an auber. I think I’ve decided to go the bypass route with this new WiFi auber. I have thought about doing the toggle switch but I don’t know that I would ever want to go back to the analog route. I have plenty more cookers if I have to work on this one. How hot have you been able to cook with the auber in play? That is the biggest driver for me is breaking through the low temp barrier.
I have not attempted any high temp cooks with this unit, I can't imagine it would be a problem. I have and older MES 30 with a Aubers on it and I cooked pretty hot in that a few times, the Smokin-It is insultaed way, way better than the MES. I think you will find others on here have done some pretty high temp cooks in the SI with Aubers.
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Thanks AZBO. I ordered the controller today and it arrives on Friday. I am going to modify my #3 to bypass the stock controller between now and then to get ready for it.
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I think you will love it, good look and enjoy!
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I have had my bypassed #2 up to 500 degrees. However, its not rated for that.
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Thanks Walt, that’s interesting to hear. I probably won’t be cooking over 350-375. I hope it holds.
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John,
Check out the old posts in the Auber sections of the forum. You are heading down the road we have paved for you! In my opinion, if you have an analog model, the bypass and Auber is THE ticket! It puts the computer in control, and works very well! You are getting to reap the benefit of Auber offering the stand alone controller based on the new design SI came up with, and commissioned Auber to complete. The new display is great, and you will like it! Let us know how it works out!
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Thanks Tony. FedEx is showing its here in Salt Lake City, but I have to wait until Friday when they deliver it. Going to cook a brisket this weekend. I got the auber charcoal WiFi controller for the eggs as well. I’m excited to try both. If I get the #3 bypassed soon enough it will go on it, otherwise I will have the egg perform the task since that controller doesn’t require mods. I’m excited to control these cookers remotely.
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Ok, got my #3 bypassed, and the Wifi auber came in the mail. It was not easy to get it connected to my wifi. I have an advanced network as I do this for work, and honestly the best way to connect is a plain vanilla 2.4ghz SSID that only broadcasts on one access point. Once I worked through the wifi issues, this is working ok. It is not the best software, but it does the job ok. I get remote access to my smokinit #3, and can change the temp of the smoker while away. The app looks exactly like the new "red" lineup that steve has been showing on facebook, so I think you get the exact functionality as the new lineup. I took some basic pics of it running. I am just testing it for now, will be doing a brisket in it starting tomorrow night. I think more of my excitement is geared towards being able to finally cook over 250, but the remote goodies on my phone are nice. I also picked up another auber controller with a fan to remotely control my BGEs and WSM:
https://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_27&products_id=657
I figured going with one app would be better than having multiple. That one is also working good, but was a pain to get on wifi as well.
(https://gga8mq.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mRWZLlQ1JMqOQMPKRevt2MHVRb6dOZCuFjmAOs8i9W6XWayX5SUB6SlbzzVuNmoi6xleZCvWf-v-hyS-KbwYTdPf9GIDkEqASZfbu9wtARowBwly6YMA3-Gjkmf-hRnELJa2Tt3dcVl8I-S6VVFZGJ3gelEdiNn9wd862uX3Fr3RpfU7KnObzOHeedrF5LdUwQtj5lpJ3zFxCcadlVscBow?width=768&height=1024&cropmode=none)
(https://ggapmq.bn.files.1drv.com/y4mjjIgJVs6UW5wlylHc9jX1nnz201a3oTzyLP4rtt-7wxOa9N0bENMnpoNIHFsR4mJq7wZagiOJU0RtfueRuTWjgfFRs51ENnRUaHksFEwBMDGXpPw0AG1IwNo8ZUZDaK0q9zpJsMNL5UsAmuPGukYccigwgbwwUp9jGV_tiEBVSOPoR7UkJQwGDX-Kd6vsBCGHyti5wea2sxRA78gpAHIlQ?width=576&height=1024&cropmode=none)
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Bet your going to love it!
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Nice write-up John on the Auber wi-fi. Did you find a need to do an auto tune? The manual for the Auber says it is pre-set for the Bradley smokers.
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Nice write-up John on the Auber wi-fi. Did you find a need to do an auto tune? The manual for the Auber says it is pre-set for the Bradley smokers.
I probably should have read the manual a little more. I dont know much about the auto tune, but will say that it held very steady throughout the cook. During step changes there was a little variation, but generally it stayed within +-5 of the set point:
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Number cruncher ;D
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John, My $.02 ... I have an analog SI 2 and also use the Auber PID (pre-WiFi). As Tony mentioned above there are posts with pics of the Auber mods done by the Auber pioneers.
I added a bypass switch (pic attached) to my SI 2 primarily to have a backup in case of Auber failure. By flipping the switch, I revert to using the Smokin-It control which works fine but not with the fine tuning control that the Auber offers.
Ralph
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Thanks Ralph. I bought the "rocket launcher" toggle switch that others used. Once it arrived I decided the benefits of the auber outweighed any desire to go back to the analog/non wifi method and gave it to a friend that could use it in a project he had. I understand the position of being able to go back, but if there is an issue, I will fire another cooker instead. However, I am impressed with the modifications that others have made including this switch. The work looks excellent.
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One of the disadvantages of retirement is that my current residence does not allow for firebreathing cooking apparatus, state fire codes Etc. I don’t have any back up and envy the people like yourself that do. 👍
The switch install was fairly easy once I decided to use the Dremel on that beautiful stainless steel top! Except for testing the switch hasn’t been used as the Auber PID Has worked flawlessly.
I am sure you will be very happy with your Wi-Fi model
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Who can confidently pick the best product among those listed on this site? : https://startbbq.com/best-electric-smokers/ (https://startbbq.com/best-electric-smokers/)
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Looks like a bunch of low end junk. After the SI, I do look at other smokers but those are all entry level units that will probably be in the scrap heap within 12 to 24 months. Can't beat these SI for build durability and bang for the buck.
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Who can confidently pick the best product among those listed on this site? : https://startbbq.com/best-electric-smokers/ (https://startbbq.com/best-electric-smokers/)
Funny, I saw a similar site yesterday only they did mention the SI and the CS, but favored the others. Late 70's early 80's I used the "Old Smokey" for Turkeys. In those day's I would have never thought about doing Brisket's and all the other things we do today with the SI. Any of the others and you will be looking again in a year or so. As Walt said, you can't beat an SI for build durability, bang for the buck, and the absolute best customer service should you encounter an issue. My personal opinion is those are smokers for those that have not done thorough and do not know about SI. I'm happy you found the forum and can read up on info from SI owners for your decision making. I would wait and save up if it were me. Good luck and happy reading.
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The Old Smokey has been around for decades. The company also makes grills. Not designed to last a lifetime, and considering the cost, maybe just a couple of season. But they are still in business.
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These guides always make me cringe... it's clear they don't put any real effort into understanding what is out there and what is actually good. Probably get free products and/or kickbacks and they're all happy.
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John, My $.02 ... I have an analog SI 2 and also use the Auber PID (pre-WiFi). As Tony mentioned above there are posts with pics of the Auber mods done by the Auber pioneers.
I added a bypass switch (pic attached) to my SI 2 primarily to have a backup in case of Auber failure. By flipping the switch, I revert to using the Smokin-It control which works fine but not with the fine tuning control that the Auber offers.
Ralph
Ralph, I seen that you're from Pa. With that handle, what part of Pa?