I first heard about them on another forum. Lots of IP users there and I had to look it up to see why they were excited about it. And the quest was on. Been using a Cuisinart 6 qt electric for 4 or so years with great results. Also a stove top Kuhn Rikon that is probably 15 or more years old. Great piece of gear. I wanted a larger electric and the Duo80 seeped to be ideal. With tax included, Target out the door was $151.21. Called IP and got the code and ordered the IP80Plus for $149.95, no tax or shipping. Seemed like a good deal.