Dave what you need is a good quality remote thermometer. The maverick I use is a good one but there are many other good ones in every price range. I pulled the two butts about 9:30am, one read 192 and the other 194 degrees, and rested them for an hour or so and then pulled one and will put the other one in the freezer for later use. Along for the ride were potato salad and a mixture of okra, corn and tomatoes I threw together from leftovers. The sauce was a concoction of ketchup, brown sugar, apple cider vinegar and a dash or two of seracha pepper sauce. The best part of it all is I didn't even break a sweat through it all. LazyQ? Yep, I'm all about that! 😎