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Title: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: volscrazy65 on March 30, 2017, 12:22:38 AM
I followed the instructions for seasoning, 250 for 4 hours.  I'm not sure the wood is burnt as much as it should be.  There is still some brown on the pieces.
Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: BedouinBob on March 30, 2017, 11:20:04 AM
No worries John, the seasoning has taken place. If you are worried about getting wood that is more burnt up, try smaller pieces. I take Smokinlicious wood and use and hatchet to make smaller cuts.
Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: volscrazy65 on March 30, 2017, 01:54:31 PM
No worries John, the seasoning has taken place. If you are worried about getting wood that is more burnt up, try smaller pieces. I take Smokinlicious wood and use and hatchet to make smaller cuts.

I really don't know what I need the wood to look like.  I've see lots of people say they had nothing but ash left in the box. 
Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: BedouinBob on March 30, 2017, 02:08:22 PM
One thing you might try is turning the smoker on at 250 and drop a thermometer probe down the smoke stack and see if it comes up to that temp.
Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: SuperDave on March 30, 2017, 04:29:43 PM
I would consider that an unacceptable burn IMO.  Put the wood box in the smoker and show us a front shot of the box and how high it is riding over the element.  Either the element isn't coming up to temperature or the smoke box isn't positioned correctly.
Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: LarryD on March 30, 2017, 06:45:38 PM
I would consider that an unacceptable burn IMO.  Put the wood box in the smoker and show us a front shot of the box and how high it is riding over the element.  Either the element isn't coming up to temperature or the smoke box isn't positioned correctly.

I agree... something isn't right there.  Those chunks should either come out as ash or pure black charcoal.

Example:
Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: barelfly on March 30, 2017, 06:54:36 PM
Over time, I have learned that placement directly on the holes has lead to better smolder on the chunks. I had a few smokes at the beginning that didn't have much black on the chunks. I also learned where the hot spots were on the burner (middle hottest, back next hottest) and have placed my wood in that area. Now, with placement and using smaller chunks of wood I'm getting black charcoal and some/complete ash.
Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: volscrazy65 on March 30, 2017, 09:38:30 PM
The element and guard around the element are not in the center so the wood box is not centered.  With the V shape of the bottom (floor), it makes the box tilt a little and that makes one side of the box farther away from the element.  The side that is farther from the element is the same side of the wood that was still a little brown.  I can push the wood box over toward the center and it makes everything more level.  That would just make the guard and element over to one side of the wood box.  I could also just put my wood chunks over to the side.  I know I could bend the guard over but I'm not sure about bending the element, kinda doubt it.   
Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: LarryD on March 31, 2017, 12:06:29 AM
Someone else that has a 'D' model, please translate the following question to something more intelligible and useful.  :)

Did you have the PID turned off / overridden during the seasoning?
Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: Donmac on March 31, 2017, 11:43:39 AM
My 3D element was like that also when I received it. I gently bent the element so that it was straight. Now it is centered under the smoke box.
Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: SuperDave on March 31, 2017, 12:26:43 PM
Granted, I have a different model but my wood box rests on the strap around the element.  The gap that you have looks excessive.  Can anyone else with his model confirm?

Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: old sarge on March 31, 2017, 03:39:51 PM
I just checked my 3D and the box support relative to the element looks pretty much the same as in John's photo but not as severe.  Admittedly I have used mine a lot and so the support may have gotten a tad bent.  I will say that when I use mine, after I slide the box on I do my best to ensure that it appears centered; that the support looks centered through the box opening. I would caution against bending the element.
Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: volscrazy65 on April 03, 2017, 10:49:13 PM
I did a second seasoning Friday and my first smoke Sunday.  I made sure to push the wood box over towards the middle and both times the wood burned a lot better and looked like it's supposed too.  Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: JustChillin on April 04, 2017, 07:23:32 AM
How was Sunday's smoke?
Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: volscrazy65 on April 04, 2017, 08:43:11 AM
How was Sunday's smoke?
I wasn't sure were to post this so I put it in the Pork section of the forum.

I started with a 6 lb butt from Sam's and used Divot's brine for 10 hrs.  I set my 3D to 225 and cut off at 195.  Fired it up at 7 am with 4 oz of hickory and 2 oz of cherry (Smokinlicious).  I used a pan of water and put the butt high in the smoker.  I was planning on maybe 12 hrs but it took 17.5 to reach 190 so I was pulling pork at like 2 in the morning!  I've read on here that smaller cuts take longer, no idea why, but that long?  It came out great, very good bark and moist.  The only complaint other than taking forever is there wasn't very much of a smoke taste, none on the deep meat.  Please advise.
Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: Meatball on April 04, 2017, 01:21:11 PM
What condition was the wood in after you were done?
Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: SuperDave on April 04, 2017, 04:01:02 PM
John, two pieces of advice based on my experience and opinion.

1) For pork butts, 225 takes forever.  235 - 250 produces same results and shaves hours off your smoke time.

2) Go up to 8 oz. of wood and make the added weight in hickory.  Smoke will never reach the center of the shoulder but pulled pork gets its flavor from blending the stronger flavored bark with the inner meat.
Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: jcboxlot on April 04, 2017, 09:14:15 PM
My guide or guard is off center too, no worries.

I saw your wood pictures, should be closer to charcoal or complete ash looking when finished.  Try smaller cuts and move around box.

Title: Re: Wood not very burnt after seasoning
Post by: volscrazy65 on April 04, 2017, 10:51:47 PM
I thought the wood looked great when done.  It was probably 2/3 ash with the rest like charcoal. 

Thanks Dave I'll give both those things a try.